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Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead of a
proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.

Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
'SIP: '

Nick

"NickC" <> wrote in message
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> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type
> numbers instead of a proper SIP address, is there any
> reason why?

Perhaps because that's what you dial from a telephone..? How would I dial
a full SIP address from a normal phone plugged into an ATA, which I would
guess an awful lot of people have..?

To my mind this seems to defeat part of the
> inherent advantage of using VoIP.
> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
> 'SIP: '

My system is configured to use this format on speed dials, which permit
alphanumeric characters, but not everyone can do this. That's what ENUM is
for, amongst other things.

Ivor

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:39:23 +0100, "NickC"
<> wrote:

>Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead of a
>proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
>defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>
>Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
> 'SIP: '
>
>Nick
>
Ok you tell me how I can dial 'SIP: ' from a
standard telephone ? .The inherent advantage of using VoIP to my way
of thinking is for starters it enables people who have a cable
broadband connection to dispense with the use of an expensive land
line. Why anyone who needs to have an expencive landline to get an
internet connection bothers with VOIP I will never know .

wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:39:23 +0100, "NickC"
> <> wrote:
>
>> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead of a
>> proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
>> defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>>
>> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
>> 'SIP: '
>
> Ok you tell me how I can dial 'SIP: ' from a
> standard telephone ? .The inherent advantage of using VoIP to my way
> of thinking is for starters it enables people who have a cable
> broadband connection to dispense with the use of an expensive land
> line.

Though they may find that the reliability of their telephone calls
decreases without the PSTN phone line.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:20:01 +0100, Paul Cupis <>
wrote:
>Though they may find that the reliability of their telephone calls
>decreases without the PSTN phone line.
I haven't noticed any difference except when I was a customer of a
certain German provider when I did come very close to throwing it in
and going back to a landline service. At that early point in my
experience of VOIP I was very disillusioned until I signed up with
Voipfone and a few others .
Now I wouldn't go back to BT or Telewest landline service for a gold
clock .

NickC wrote:

> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead of
> a
> proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
> defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>
> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
> 'SIP: '
>
> Nick


As I run my own Registrar/proxy I do use a full URL here. I like it as its
the same as my email address. (Which I'm not going to announce here )

As others have mentioned, full alpha-numeric URL's are either impossible to
dial from the PSTN or very difficult using a POTS handset through an ATA.
Hence, currently they are hard to use.

However, if you are in a community that use good SIP terminals they are
really cool!

Andrew

In article <V->,
"NickC" <> writes:
> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead of a
> proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
> defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>
> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
> 'SIP: '

Yes, I do, but I only give it out to family and friends, for the
same reason I only give my email address to family and friends.
I run my own SIP and STUN server, again for family and friends.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Its obvious now you mention it, because I do everything through the computer
that simple reason hadn't occured to me, duh..


"Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> "NickC" <> wrote in message
> news:V-
>> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type
>> numbers instead of a proper SIP address, is there any
>> reason why?
>
> Perhaps because that's what you dial from a telephone..? How would I dial
> a full SIP address from a normal phone plugged into an ATA, which I would
> guess an awful lot of people have..?
>
> To my mind this seems to defeat part of the
>> inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
>> 'SIP: '
>
> My system is configured to use this format on speed dials, which permit
> alphanumeric characters, but not everyone can do this. That's what ENUM is
> for, amongst other things.
>
> Ivor
>
>

Excellent so some people are using SIP addresses. Question is how do I do
it? I am using a good ISP who lets us create DNS entries for our domain
name as required, question is what DNS record do I need to create to do
this?

I can create a CName type record for MyName.MyDomain.co.uk but not for
.

Nick

"Andrew (G0RVM)" <> wrote in message
news:5IWWf.296749$. uk...
> NickC wrote:
>
>> Everyone here seems to be using standard telephone type numbers instead
>> of
>> a
>> proper SIP address, is there any reason why? To my mind this seems to
>> defeat part of the inherent advantage of using VoIP.
>>
>> Is anyone using a proper SIP address like:
>> 'SIP: '
>>
>> Nick
>
>
> As I run my own Registrar/proxy I do use a full URL here. I like it as
> its
> the same as my email address. (Which I'm not going to announce here )
>
> As others have mentioned, full alpha-numeric URL's are either impossible
> to
> dial from the PSTN or very difficult using a POTS handset through an ATA.
> Hence, currently they are hard to use.
>
> However, if you are in a community that use good SIP terminals they are
> really cool!
>
> Andrew

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:31 +0100, "NickC"
<> wrote:

>Excellent so some people are using SIP addresses.
Please yourself I shall continue to use an ordinary telephone.