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Anyone recommend a VoIP provider offering the above, maybe even 0800?

Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable (I know a lot of people don't
like them already!)

Thanks in advance.

"George Woodbine" <> wrote in message
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> Anyone recommend a VoIP provider offering the above, maybe even 0800?
>
> Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable (I know a lot of people don't
> like them already!)
>
> Thanks in advance.
www.voipfone.co.uk

"George Woodbine" <> wrote in message
news:r6-
> Anyone recommend a VoIP provider offering the above,
> maybe even 0800?
> Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable (I know a lot
> of people don't like them already!)

Have you actually *tried* Sipgate or are you making judegements purely by
what you read on here..? Please don't make assumptions based on a few
disgruntled individuals.

You can get 0845 and 0870 from Sipgate, but not 0800 (at present). There's
no reason you couldn't forward an 0800 number from elsewhere though.


Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
>>Anyone recommend a VoIP provider offering the above,
>>maybe even 0800?
>>Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable (I know a lot
>>of people don't like them already!)
>
> Have you actually *tried* Sipgate or are you making judegements purely by
> what you read on here..? Please don't make assumptions based on a few
> disgruntled individuals.

Yup, I have an 0845 with them at the moment. You'll note I said
"Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable"

Very rarely make calls with them (and therefore rarely use the website),
so can't comment on their service from that point of view. However
recently I've noticed a very big increase in failed incoming calls.
These have been test calls by myself from Orange or Vodafone.

Can't remember as many problems with other providers I've used. I've
QoS on my ATA so I'm sure it's not a bandwidth issue at my end, but to
be sure I've tried with only my ATA plugged into the broadband. May see
if they improve over the next few days, if not I may try this voipfone
that keymaster has suggested.

"George Woodbine" <> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > Anyone recommend a VoIP provider offering the above,
> > > maybe even 0800?
> > > Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable (I know a
> > > lot of people don't like them already!)
> >
> > Have you actually *tried* Sipgate or are you making
> > judegements purely by what you read on here..? Please
> > don't make assumptions based on a few disgruntled
> > individuals.
>
> Yup, I have an 0845 with them at the moment. You'll note
> I said "Sipgate seem to be getting very unreliable"

That could mean you've read from others that they think Sipgate is getting
unreliable

> Very rarely make calls with them (and therefore rarely
> use the website), so can't comment on their service from
> that point of view. However recently I've noticed a very
> big increase in failed incoming calls. These have been
> test calls by myself from Orange or Vodafone.

The recent problems in this respect have been down to gateway problems
rather than internal within Sipgate. I also read here from someone that
Orange had a routing problem at one point recently.

> Can't remember as many problems with other providers I've
> used. I've QoS on my ATA so I'm sure it's not a
> bandwidth issue at my end, but to be sure I've tried with
> only my ATA plugged into the broadband. May see if they
> improve over the next few days, if not I may try this
> voipfone that keymaster has suggested.

Any connection of 512k or more is plenty unless you don't use QoS and have
a very heavy download in progress..! Certainly I can have two simultaneous
phone calls on the go in addition to normal web surfing without problems.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
|| "George Woodbine" <> wrote in message
|| news:-f6dncp-h-
||| Ivor Jones wrote:

<snip>

|| The recent problems in this respect have been down to gateway
|| problems rather than internal within Sipgate. I also read here from
|| someone that Orange had a routing problem at one point recently.
||

You did read it indeed. It turned out to be a problem with NTL. It seems
Orange use them for their PSTN interface. Of course I should've known that &
called NTL in the first place. Took Orange 4 days to track it down.

On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:50:45 +0100, George Woodbine
<> wrote:


>Can't remember as many problems with other providers I've used. I've
>QoS on my ATA so I'm sure it's not a bandwidth issue at my end, but to
>be sure I've tried with only my ATA plugged into the broadband. May see
>if they improve over the next few days, if not I may try this voipfone
>that keymaster has suggested.
You won't win with Ivor Sipgate is THE best as far has he is concerned
but Voipfone I can recomend and you gat a lot more add ons with
Voipfone for free and the Voicemail speaks in English not German .

>From my experience with Sipgate this afternoon i wouldnt touch them
witha bargepole, the calls i made were unclear, the calls often
dropped and also no one could phone me.

Go with FREETALK , i will be at Dixons door first thing in the morning.

On 1 Oct 2005 14:29:35 -0700, "www.crystal-power.co.uk"
<> wrote:

>>From my experience with Sipgate this afternoon i wouldnt touch them
>witha bargepole, the calls i made were unclear, the calls often
>dropped and also no one could phone me.
>
>Go with FREETALK , i will be at Dixons door first thing in the morning.
You would be better going here
http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/stor...uct&sku=559198

The year box for 19.99 plus postage .

wrote:
> You would be better going here
> http:// <<sniped to avoid Ivor's whining>>
>
> The year box for 19.99 plus postage .

Now you've done it - wait for Ivor...