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Recieved this in my email:


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"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Recieved this in my email:

[rest of blatant advert snipped]

So..?

Ivor

Ivor Jones <> wrote:

> [rest of blatant advert snipped]
> So..?

It's a decent book nonetheless. IMHO.

cheers
Heimo


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"Heimo Hetl" <> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones <> wrote:
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> > [rest of blatant advert snipped]
> > So..?
>
> It's a decent book nonetheless. IMHO.
>
> cheers
> Heimo

Maybe, but a non-advertisement group isn't the place to advertise it..!
There are groups specifically set aside for the purpose, this isn't one of
them.

Ivor

> So..?
>
> Ivor
>
Well, These are some of the best "technical" books avalible. and it is of
interest to anyone who has a tecnical interest in deploying voip solutions.
You may be happy with a ATA lashed to a 15+ year old analog PBX but some
people here are deploying comercial solutions and this will a usefull
referance book.
This wasnt an advert, Dave just forwarded an email he had received.

If you keep on like this it will be just you left here feeding any troll who
wanders by.

Ian

"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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> This wasnt an advert, Dave just forwarded an email he had
> received.

It was an advert. However useful it may be, it concluded with the words
"to order your copy...." followed by a link, which is as blatant an advert
as you can get. If he had omitted this part then I wouldn't have
complained.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
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> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:
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> [snip]
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> > This wasnt an advert, Dave just forwarded an email he had
> > received.
>
> It was an advert. However useful it may be, it concluded with the words
> "to order your copy...." followed by a link, which is as blatant an advert
> as you can get. If he had omitted this part then I wouldn't have
> complained.
>
> Ivor
>
What ever, Just dont forget to turn the lights off when you leave....

Ian

"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
> news:...
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> >
> > "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > This wasnt an advert, Dave just forwarded an email he
> > > had received.
> >
> > It was an advert. However useful it may be, it
> > concluded with the words "to order your copy...."
> > followed by a link, which is as blatant an advert as
> > you can get. If he had omitted this part then I
> > wouldn't have complained.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> What ever, Just dont forget to turn the lights off when
> you leave....
>
> Ian

Read the group charter. If a few more people did so we wouldn't be having
this conversation.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
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> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > "Ivor Jones" <> wrote in message
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> > > "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > This wasnt an advert, Dave just forwarded an email he
> > > > had received.
> > >
> > > It was an advert. However useful it may be, it
> > > concluded with the words "to order your copy...."
> > > followed by a link, which is as blatant an advert as
> > > you can get. If he had omitted this part then I
> > > wouldn't have complained.
> > >
> > > Ivor
> > >
> > What ever, Just dont forget to turn the lights off when
> > you leave....
> >
> > Ian
>
> Read the group charter. If a few more people did so we wouldn't be having
> this conversation.
>
> Ivor
OK you asked for this.

For other users of the group here follows emails that Ivor sent to me when I
rewrote the charter for him:-
"Hi Ian,

Many thanks for your help with the charter etc. and the chat last night. I

have resubmitted the charter etc. to Chris at Control with almost your

exact wording, I hope you don't mind..!

Let's see how things go from here on.

Ivor"

And

"

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the message. I didn't really intend this to be a purely

technical group, indeed I am a very non-technical person; the majority I

think don't have a clue what FoIP, VOB and VON are, I certainly had to

look them up..! VoIP however is a commonly understood term, hence the

choice of name."

"

So Ivor I havent just READ the Charter , I (re)wrote it

This is my final post here unless I see things improve to a very large
degree.

TTFN Ian

"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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> So Ivor I havent just READ the Charter , I (re)wrote it
>
> This is my final post here unless I see things improve to
> a very large degree.
>
> TTFN Ian

Sorry Ian, I didn't recognise the name. But it's still an advert if it
tries to sell something, which "to place your order..." definitely does.

Ivor