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In article <tclKe.1705$>,
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> "Sean" <> wrote yes but companies who offer a
> "FREE" service are not all they are cracked up to be, see sipgate as an
> example, comntinual techinical failures, no sound at either end, in fact the
> service is crap, why not pay 18.99 a month for all calls in the uk and
> ireland, get a free fax line and as many uk area codes attached as you like,
> our previous bills used to be over 600 pounds a month for our business calls
> now all we pay is 18.99 what a svaing and flawless service as well unlike
> most of the "FREE" voip providers
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You do not get it, if someone wants to see if VOPIP is for them, then
they do not want to spend money out on hardware, because they may spend
out this money and then find out that VOIP is not for them.
There have to be an easy way to find out if VOIP is the right way to go,
that do not cost money.

Most ISPs will give you a free modem, the problem is they lock you into
a 12 month contract. what is needed is some way for people to try these
services and if they do not like it say within a month or tywo, they can
send back the equipment and nothing more is paid apart from the
subscription or calls.

On 10 Aug 2005 08:37:01 -0700, "Mathew Curtis"
<> wrote:


>so you pay £18.99 a month and how many minutes a month do you use?
>calling uk and ireland
Mat I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle two lines
from Vonage cost approx 63 p a day I have two Vonage lines, now
when you consider a loaf of bread cost anything from 80p to 1.10p
what does 63 p matter it doesn't . I know I can pick up either of my
two phones and make a geographical call to anywhere in the uk or the
whole of Ireland without having to worry about the cost . I must have
made calls worth at least 1.50 at BT rates this afternoon alone and
when you think you can have one line for just over 30 p a day well it
doesn't stand thinking about really especially with no line rental to
pay .
I am not pushing Vonage I would and have said more or less the same
thing about Voipfone the downside for me with Voiphone is that you
have to keep on topping up your account with Vonage one payment and
that is it for a month .

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> On 10 Aug 2005 08:37:01 -0700, "Mathew Curtis"
> <> wrote:
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>>so you pay £18.99 a month and how many minutes a month do you use?
>>calling uk and ireland
>
> Mat I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle two lines
> from Vonage cost approx 63 p a day I have two Vonage lines, now
> when you consider a loaf of bread cost anything from 80p to 1.10p
> what does 63 p matter it doesn't . I know I can pick up either of my
> two phones and make a geographical call to anywhere in the uk or the
> whole of Ireland without having to worry about the cost . I must have
> made calls worth at least 1.50 at BT rates this afternoon alone and
> when you think you can have one line for just over 30 p a day well it
> doesn't stand thinking about really especially with no line rental to
> pay .
> I am not pushing Vonage I would and have said more or less the same
> thing about Voipfone the downside for me with Voiphone is that you
> have to keep on topping up your account with Vonage one payment and
> that is it for a month .
You've used JustDialVoIP havn't you Dexter? Can you e-mail me, i would
like to see a example of the ebill. Cheers

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:30:45 +0100, Ad C <>
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>You do not get it, if someone wants to see if VOPIP is for them, then
>they do not want to spend money out on hardware, because they may spend
>out this money and then find out that VOIP is not for them.
get this straight once and for all providing you have a broadband
connection there is no difference between a VOIP line and a BT line
except that you pay no line rental with VOIP .

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:40:12 +0100, Sean
<> wrote:


>You've used JustDialVoIP havn't you Dexter? Can you e-mail me, i would
>like to see a example of the ebill. Cheers
Never seen one myself only used them for less than a month then closed
the account by dialing their expensive 0870 number .

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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:40:12 +0100, Sean
> <> wrote:
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>>You've used JustDialVoIP havn't you Dexter? Can you e-mail me, i would
>>like to see a example of the ebill. Cheers
>
> Never seen one myself only used them for less than a month then closed
> the account by dialing their expensive 0870 number .
Right, so did you get billed at all? How did it work?

I tried there 0870 number today, but it was not even connecting!

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:34:10 +0100, Sean
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>Right, so did you get billed at all? How did it work?
I think they got around six quid they did send an invoice by email.
>I tried there 0870 number today, but it was not even connecting!
I did ring it a time or two myself and had problems .

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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:34:10 +0100, Sean
> <> wrote:
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>>Right, so did you get billed at all? How did it work?
>
> I think they got around six quid they did send an invoice by email.
>
>>I tried there 0870 number today, but it was not even connecting!
>
> I did ring it a time or two myself and had problems .

Ok, i look forward in seeing how things go with this company!

"Steve Loft" <> wrote in message
news:KA8Ke.67849$.. .
> r_mervart wrote:
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> > As I am also interested in the Voicemail can you please be more specific
> > about the reliability.
> Not long, to be honest, less than a month. The only "problem" I've had
> is the weird mixture of voices (in English) when you call the answering
> service. But it's free and it's a geographic number, so it suits my
> purposes.

So do you get that weird mixture of voices only when you interrogate the
answering service but callers hear clearly your announcement and nothing
else confusing?
Roman

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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:30:45 +0100, Ad C <>
> wrote:
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>>You do not get it, if someone wants to see if VOPIP is for them, then
>>they do not want to spend money out on hardware, because they may spend
>>out this money and then find out that VOIP is not for them.
>
> get this straight once and for all providing you have a broadband
> connection there is no difference between a VOIP line and a BT line
> except that you pay no line rental with VOIP .
>
And generally (ignoring ITU T.37, ITU T.38 and ITU V.150.1 which
asterisk doesn't support and neither do most VoIP providers) you can't
reliably use a fax machine or a modem over the line,