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Old 06-05-2005, 10:54 PM   #1
Joel
 
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Hi,
We have recently extended our phone rate comparison database to include
VoIP. So far we only have a small number of companies' rates: this will
grow with time.
I would be interested in comments, and in whether we are missing
people's favourite VoIP providers.
Joel
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:04 PM   #2
Ivor Jones
 
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Joel wrote:
> Hi,
> We have recently extended our phone rate comparison database to
> include VoIP. So far we only have a small number of companies'
> rates: this will grow with time.
> I would be interested in comments, and in whether we are missing
> people's favourite VoIP providers.
> Joel


I notice that it quotes different rates (0.5p/min & 1.4p/min) for calls to
US landlines/mobiles. As there is no way of telling whether a US number is
a landline or a mobile, why the different rates..?

Ivor


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Old 06-06-2005, 08:08 AM   #3
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> I notice that it quotes different rates (0.5p/min & 1.4p/min) for calls to
> US landlines/mobiles. As there is no way of telling whether a US number is
> a landline or a mobile, why the different rates..?
>
> Ivor

On this issue I prefer to quote the rate claimed by the companies. I
agree that it makes no sense that they claim the rates are different.
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Old 06-08-2005, 11:14 AM   #4
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Joel wrote:
> Hi,
> We have recently extended our phone rate comparison database to include
> VoIP. So far we only have a small number of companies' rates: this will
> grow with time.
> I would be interested in comments, and in whether we are missing
> people's favourite VoIP providers.


please include us! www.gradwell.com/voip/callcosts

thanks
peter
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Old 06-08-2005, 04:56 PM   #5
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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:14:45 +0100, Peter Gradwell
<> wrote:

>Joel wrote:
>> We have recently extended our phone rate comparison database to include
>> VoIP. So far we only have a small number of companies' rates: this will
>> grow with time.
>> I would be interested in comments, and in whether we are missing
>> people's favourite VoIP providers.

>
>please include us! www.gradwell.com/voip/callcosts


Oh dear! From http://www.gradwell.com/voip/

"We offer complete UK wide coverage with phone numbers in every area
code, plus 0870, 0800 and 0845, so you can have a real 01 or 02 number
[...]
London - 0207"

Are you going to offer new 0203 numbers too?

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Old 06-08-2005, 05:15 PM   #6
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Peter wrote:
> please include us! www.gradwell.com/voip/callcosts
>
> thanks
> peter

Hi Peter,
Can you send me a file with rates in tab or comma delimited format?
Currently we are basing the comparison on the most expensive rate to
the country's landlines rather than the cheapest. Perhaps in the future
we will develop, in addition, a more detailed database based on more
digits of the phone number, but for the moment we are sticking to one
VoIP rate per country/country mobile. (So far the international VoIP
rates for the companies in our database are all 24/7.)
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Old 06-08-2005, 06:02 PM   #7
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> Oh dear! From http://www.gradwell.com/voip/
>
> "We offer complete UK wide coverage with phone numbers in every area
> code, plus 0870, 0800 and 0845, so you can have a real 01 or 02 number
> [...]
> London - 0207"
>
> Are you going to offer new 0203 numbers too?


You have no idea how man people ring us up and go "can you do me 020
7..." if we don't put that. Sad, but true.

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Old 06-08-2005, 07:36 PM   #8
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Joel wrote:
> We have recently extended our phone rate comparison database to include
> VoIP. So far we only have a small number of companies' rates: this will
> grow with time.


There are a few of these now (you list one of your competitors on your
home page) and I must admit I've had a bash at this myself (*VERY* basic
POC - http://www.voipcost.org.uk/). The idea that I was toying with was
an Asterisk AGI script can query in real-time the best provider for an
international number (hence the POC web page). Some other sites have an
application that allows 'off-line' (non-PBX) lookups but I haven't seen
one that went as far as the AGI script.

I wonder where this takes the market if you can always use the cheapest
provider then everyone will end up charging the same (and every provider
probably losing money).


Matt.
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Old 06-08-2005, 08:34 PM   #9
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Peter Gradwell <> wrote:

> You have no idea how man people ring us up and go "can you do me 020
> 7..." if we don't put that. Sad, but true.


You could at least stick a space in there so that it's 020 7...

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Old 06-08-2005, 09:56 PM   #10
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Matt wrote:
> I wonder where this takes the market if you can always use the cheapest
> provider then everyone will end up charging the same (and every provider
> probably losing money).
> Matt.

This hasn't happened yet for ordinary phone rates, and our comparison
pages have been around for quite a while now. Indeed the Finarea group
compete with themselves under many names, and their rates (which are
many and various) can go up or down.
For phone calls using callthrough companies it is easy to chop and
change, with no need to sign up for an account. How easy is it to chop
and change using VoIP?
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