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On 04/21/06 02:33, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
> * Dr Balwinder S Dheeman:
>> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>>> Plonk!
>>
>> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
>
> Ivan found your spam.
>
> As a Dr you should have learned to check out how to use something (in
> this case, Usenet) before trying to use it.
>
> Cross-posting to several unrelated groups is bad enough. And your job
> offer is OFF TOPIC in all groups posted to (read their FAQs, Dr). Which
> means you've acted like an inconsiderate, less than intelligent spammer.

I don't think these groups are unrelated to YATE and even each other.

FYI, It is not my job offer, I only was trying to spread the word by
forwarding an offer from Free/Lire Open Source Software developer
company. FYI, I have no any direct and, or indirect commercial relations
with them.

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On 04/21/06 05:23, Phlip wrote:
> Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>
>> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
>> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
>> applications.
>
> I don't know about the other newsgroups here, but in general the C++
> newsgroup FAQ summarizes the situation well:
>
> http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lit....html#faq-5.10
>
> "Job ads, off-topic in comp.lang.c++, give the impression of an employer
> that is irresponsible and/or technically clueless".

I was me, who is trying to spread the word for a Free/Libre Open Source
Software project, not the employers themselves.

> We are aware that some of the responses give the impression of newsgroup
> members who are completely clueless and rude; that's no excuse.
>
> You would do much better networking in your communities than collating a
> stack of resumes from all over the world.

Ok, But that's is clearly mentioned in the request they need it for
Bucharest, Romania.

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On 04/21/06 06:45, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Dr Balwinder S Dheeman <> writes:
>> What'as the bloody SPAM you found?
>>
>> YATE (Yet Another Telephony Engine) http://YATE.null.ro/ is an F/LOSS
>> (Free/Libre Open Source Software) PBX project natively developed by Null
>> Team, Romania on Linux and has recently been ported (sponsored by
>> Sangoma Technologies Corporation http://www.sangoma.com/) for Windows also.
>>
>> They want to hire 2 full-time C++ programmers to work in Bucharest,
>> Romania. They will work mostly on development of Yate and related
>> applications.
>
> You should have said this in your first msg instead of making it look
> like Yet Another Piece of Headhunter SPAM.

Admitted, that's my mistake. I should have re-phrased their requirement
properly; I shall definitely take great care in the future, thanks.

Thanks a lot,
With due regards,

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On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>
>> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
>>> Plonk!
>> Stupid!!
>>
>> Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
>> address was duly given in the forwarded message.
>
> You really are a ****ing moron, responding to someone who has plonked you.
> You also posted an attachment to a Usenet article, further evidence of
> your idiocy.

So ..., is that makes you feel an intelligent and, or more learned person?

What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text message in its
original form to the Usenet? What would be the difference if someone
includes the same text instead of attaching it?

Thanks, but no thanks.

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:16:19 +0530 Dr Balwinder S Dheeman
<> waved a wand and this message magically
appeared:

> Ok, But that's is clearly mentioned in the request they need it for
> Bucharest, Romania.

How much are they paying for a C++ developer?

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"Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" <>
wrote in message news:

[snip]

> What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
> message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
> the difference if someone includes the same text instead
> of attaching it?

Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.

> Thanks, but no thanks.

My thoughts exactly. Take your spam elsewhere (but not to any groups I
subscribe to, please).

Ivor

"Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" <> wrote in message
news:...
: On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
: >
: >> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
: >>> Plonk!
: >> Stupid!!

Let me summarize the story:
I notice that a totally off-topic message is posted. A message that
makes one waste even more time by requiring the opening of an
attachment.
Many people read these forums to provide help and assistance to
people who may need it. A valuable helper is even more likely to
waste his time because he will pay attention to an unanswered post.

All I did was make a favor to the online community by labeling
your thread as what it is - SPAM.

You call this stupid?


: >> Please read before you reply, and for your kind information the reply
: >> address was duly given in the forwarded message.
: >
: > You really are a ****ing moron, responding to someone who has plonked
you.
: > You also posted an attachment to a Usenet article, further evidence of
: > your idiocy.
:
: So ..., is that makes you feel an intelligent and, or more learned
person?

I found Dave's comment to be rather entertaining and to the point.
I had such a good laugh that it even made me read this whole thread
again, and even dig out your reply.


: What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text message in its
: original form to the Usenet? What would be the difference if someone
: includes the same text instead of attaching it?

What makes you think that a significant ratio of people in these
newsgroups might be looking for a job ?
And if someone is indeed looking for a job, how likely is he to
be interested in a position based in Romania ?
More importantly, how many similar job postings would we have to
tolerate on these forums, daily, if yours was to be acceptable ?

You claim you have no connection with the original job poster, but
who will believe that you pick random postings to submit them here?


Try to think, Dheeman, was your posting here any more relevant or
better targeted than a penis enlagement pill or a refinancing offer
would be?
It is just as irrelevant to most of us.

Some have kindly tried to explain this situation to you, and
you still act like you don't understand ?!?!?


Whether you like it or not, Dr Balwinder Singh Dheeman is now
known as a spammer. Too bad for you if this is your real name.


And you are the joke of the party.


I feel pity for you, so here's my final advice:

Shut up and disappear ! Run!!!

anything but a humble apology does nothing but cover with shame
the original job poster, your company, and anyone who has
any connection with you.
Don't expect salvation for yourself, but try to have
some mercy for your friends and peers.


Goodbye!
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" <>
> wrote in message news:
>
> [snip]
>
> > What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
> > message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
> > the difference if someone includes the same text instead
> > of attaching it?
>
> Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
> attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.

Nobody with any sense uses a client that runs every attachment like an
executable. In fact most people with sense use clients that ask before
running even an executable it was requested to open.

The only people that have to worry about ALL attachments are certain
Windows users that use the clients MS gave them. Text attachments
shouldn't be any concern to anyone in this group even if their client
is capable of opening attachments. We're all too smart to use those
broken news clients, right?

Ivan Vecerina wrote:
> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> : On 04/21/06 02:35, Dave Uhring wrote:
> : > On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:06:59 +0530, Dr Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> : >
> : >> On 04/20/06 22:39, Ivan Vecerina wrote:
> : >>> Plonk!
> : >> Stupid!!
>
> Let me summarize the story:
> I notice that a totally off-topic message is posted. A message that
> makes one waste even more time by requiring the opening of an
> attachment.

You mean wasting time like - replying to someone you killfiled??? -

Jeesh.

* Noah Roberts:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> "Dr Balwinder S Dheeman" <>
>> wrote in message news:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> What's wrong in posting and, or forwarding a small text
>>> message in its original form to the Usenet? What would be
>>> the difference if someone includes the same text instead
>>> of attaching it?
>> Do you really need that one spelling out..? Anything could be in an
>> attachment. Nobody with any sense opens them.
>
> Nobody with any sense uses a client that runs every attachment like an
> executable. In fact most people with sense use clients that ask before
> running even an executable it was requested to open.
>
> The only people that have to worry about ALL attachments are certain
> Windows users that use the clients MS gave them. Text attachments
> shouldn't be any concern to anyone in this group even if their client
> is capable of opening attachments. We're all too smart to use those
> broken news clients, right?

I tend to agree.

A text file attachement /containing source code/ can be very useful in a
programming group.

I can see the code directly in my newsreader (currently Thunderbird with
NewsWorthy extension), and I can easily save the file.


Follow-ups to [news.misc] (note: I don't read that group ).

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?