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Hi All,

Have you found a gizmo that allows this, to use a "normal" phone (or
even fax) through Skype (Out) services? The simpler, the better, pls.

TIA,
JBR

Impossible. Skype is just a bit of P2P software, you need a computer to use
it (as you do for IM and other similar programs). You can run a version on a
PDA.

What you need is Analog Telephone Adapter (ATA) plugged to ethernet port on
your router and a SIP service provider. Or you can get a router with built
in ATA / SIP VoIP port(s) e.g. Draytek Vigor 2500V / 2600V / 2900V / Zyxel
2602HW(L) / Zoom X5V.
Regards,
Martin

You may use a new solution.
Peercall, that is a normal phone and just a simple VoIP phone have its own
no. Better to buy an adaptor and use your normal telephone.
Archifone, SIP/H.323 phone, you can have services to call to any normal
phone no. with calling rate. can use with mynetfone.
http://www.uni-net.com.au/index.php?...d=76&Itemid=41

I had bought from them and very good quality. And there is a free software
version as well.


"BigBen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi All,
>
> Have you found a gizmo that allows this, to use a "normal" phone (or
> even fax) through Skype (Out) services? The simpler, the better, pls.
>
> TIA,
> JBR

You may use a new solution.
Peercall, that is a normal phone and just a simple VoIP phone have its own
no. Better THAN buy an adaptor and use your normal telephone.
Archifone, SIP/H.323 phone, you can haveSIP services to call to any normal
phone no. with calling rate. can use with any SIP Provider.
http://www.uni-net.com.au/index.php?...d=76&Itemid=41

I had bought from them and very good quality. And there is a free software
version as well. They apply the SIP services and setup for me as well.


"BigBen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi All,
>
> Have you found a gizmo that allows this, to use a "normal" phone (or
> even fax) through Skype (Out) services? The simpler, the better, pls.
>
> TIA,
> JBR

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:33:31 +0100, "Martin²" <> wrote:

>Impossible. Skype is just a bit of P2P software, you need a computer to use
>it (as you do for IM and other similar programs). You can run a version on a
>PDA

This seems like a huge market oportunity for someone coming up with a
"phone" capable of running this P2P software, (updatable, naturally)


>What you need is Analog Telephone Adapter (ATA) plugged to ethernet port on
>your router and a SIP service provider. Or you can get a router with built

Several friends of mine use Skype, none uses a SIP provider ...

SkypeIn numbers, in several countries, although yet not in mine, is
something I'm very interested in. Do SIP providers provide that?

The 2 SIP providers based in my country - Portugal - which I've tried,
have been a total disapointment to me so far - more than ounce I've
tried making a call through one of these SIP providers, I can hear the
called phone ringing, and apparently the call is not completed.
Next, I dial the same number using Skype, make the call on the first
attempt, and have a loud and clear conversation ...

Thank you very much for the info!

Cheers,
JBR

If you are within Australia, you better the SIP services here, it is
fanastic.
http://www.uni-net.com.au/index.php?...d=76&Itemid=41

And try out the link above of the software phone, that is free and also very
good quality.


"BigBen" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:33:31 +0100, "Martin²" <> wrote:
>
>>Impossible. Skype is just a bit of P2P software, you need a computer to
>>use
>>it (as you do for IM and other similar programs). You can run a version on
>>a
>>PDA
>
> This seems like a huge market oportunity for someone coming up with a
> "phone" capable of running this P2P software, (updatable, naturally)
>
>
>>What you need is Analog Telephone Adapter (ATA) plugged to ethernet port
>>on
>>your router and a SIP service provider. Or you can get a router with built
>
> Several friends of mine use Skype, none uses a SIP provider ...
>
> SkypeIn numbers, in several countries, although yet not in mine, is
> something I'm very interested in. Do SIP providers provide that?
>
> The 2 SIP providers based in my country - Portugal - which I've tried,
> have been a total disapointment to me so far - more than ounce I've
> tried making a call through one of these SIP providers, I can hear the
> called phone ringing, and apparently the call is not completed.
> Next, I dial the same number using Skype, make the call on the first
> attempt, and have a loud and clear conversation ...
>
> Thank you very much for the info!
>
> Cheers,
> JBR

"BigBen" <> wrote in message
news:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:33:31 +0100, "Martin²"
> <> wrote:
>
> > Impossible. Skype is just a bit of P2P software, you
> > need a computer to use it (as you do for IM and other
> > similar programs). You can run a version on a PDA
>
> This seems like a huge market oportunity for someone
> coming up with a "phone" capable of running this P2P
> software, (updatable, naturally)

To do that you'd need the source code, which Skype are not about to
release.

Why does it *have* to be Skype..? There are a whole load of other (and
IMHO better) services out there.

Ivor

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:18:14 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<> wrote:


>Why does it *have* to be Skype..? There are a whole load of other (and
>IMHO better) services out there.

Well, SkypeIn in several countries seems very attractive to me. I know
any other provider ofering that

My experience with Skype, is that even now, that I don't have broad
band for a few weeks, I can still make perfect calls, which I can not
say the SIP provider I (also) use.

Regards,
JBR

BigBen:
>The 2 SIP providers based in my country - Portugal - which I've tried,
>have been a total disapointment to me so far -

The beauty of VoIP is that you can use SIP provider just about anywhere in
the world.
You can get a US SIP provider to give you a free US number, same in UK,
Germany etc.
There may be some hurdles to overcame, e.g. you may need to use a local
proxy server to register for the service, also make payment in foreign
currency etc.
Regards,
Martin

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:07:09 +0100, "Martin²" <> wrote:

>The beauty of VoIP is that you can use SIP provider just about anywhere in
>the world.

Indeed ... I'm temporally without broadband, and when get back to
using it, my upload speed won't higher than 128 Kbps.

While I could make perfect calls using Skype, I could hardly talk to
the tech support of the PT Sip provider I'm now using ... Imagine if
the connection had to go to somewhere further away ...

I do like very much the possibility of using an ATA converter, be able
to send/receive faxes over VoIP - and that Skype won't allow (at least
so far).

>You can get a US SIP provider to give you a free US number, same in UK,
>Germany etc.

Right, but I'm not interested in using a collection of SIP providers.
Do you know any that will get me numbers in several countries - US,
UK. NL, FR, and since we're at it, PT

One disadvantage of Skype I must admit, is their tech spport is
practically non existant


>There may be some hurdles to overcame, e.g. you may need to use a local
>proxy server to register for the service

What are talking about??

>, also make payment in foreign
>currency etc.

I'm used to that already - I get many bicycle parts from the UK, other
bits and pieces from the US (mostly when cousins are coming over),
etc.

Call me what you like, but I'm appalled by the existing multitude of
SIP providers )

Regards,
JBR