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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:20:36 GMT, "SirReal" <>
wrote:

>
>"doS" <> wrote in message
>news:eNmwe.862$...
>>I would have barked too, since it was you that didn't know jack about the
>> hdd and partition. The restore partition is clearly labeled in most cases.
>> BTW, XP can see more than 32gb also.
>
>this has nothing to do with partition. this has to do with
>code slipped upon one's hard drive without the user/buyer
>knowing about it.
>
>i completely know about about the appoximate amount of
>space needed for the format. what i didn't know was the
>deception perpetrated but microscam and dell. i do know now. does that
>make any sense to you??.
>
>please, i am not in the market for flames on this ng.

Then you should stop being a moron.

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> Then you should stop being a moron.

you have just 'classified' yourself. sorry to understand that...

"SirReal" <> wrote in message
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>
> what i didn't know was the
> deception perpetrated but microscam and dell. i do know now.
> please, i am not in the market for flames on this ng.

Use of phrases to inflame, like "microscam", or to berate without cause,
automatically degenerates the professionalism you claim to aspire.
Microsoft has no control over how Dell, Gateway, or even you build a
system.

Any reasonable exploration and research into Dell systems will reveal
the use of the hidden partition to provide the disaster recovery
image/install. I believe even Dell will divulge that fact. I'm sure
they did this because the loss of 3GB was not considered a huge loss in
capacity compared to the huge reduction in tech calls from idiot users
that manage to always lose all the installation or recovery media that
came with their computer. If you want to recover that recovery area on
the hard drive and create CDs for recovery, see if
http://support.dell.com/support/topi...t?dn=FA1091713
applies in your setup.

By the way, I see your keyboard is still broke. The Shift key doesn't
work.

Mara wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:23:54 GMT, "SirReal" <> wrote:

><snip>
>>...hey suckass...read my follow up post...i truely understand the
>>difference, it was taken into considereation...formatting does not take up 5
>>gigs..you moron...there is something else microscam and dell included...read
>>on fool....
>>idiot savant....

> I'm sorry, but I have to rate this flame at a -6 on a 1-10 scale. The lames
> are...well, just lame, the grammar stinks, and given your lack of attribution,
> you're flaming...nobody.

And isn't "idiot savant" as much a compliment as it is a put-down? At
least an idiot savant has *one* area in which he/she excels.

> "You accomplished something, but I'm pretty sure it isn't what you intended."

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"SirReal" <> wrote in
news:Htnwe.5183$Iv6.4919@trnddc03:

>
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I have to rate this flame at a -6 on a 1-10 scale.
>> The lames
>> are...well, just lame, the grammar stinks, and given your lack of
>> attribution,
>> you're flaming...nobody.
>
> ...no sir...a flame was not intended. lame??, gave you info that
> you 'probly didn't know about. grammer, does it matter is the
> message was understood, wasn't it??
> attribution?? gain the info straight from the horses mouth.
> i would think that at some would have appreciated it.
>
> flaming nobody??. then i would have to conclude miss
> tick is nobody.
>
> i came here with a simple request. gained some very
> concrete information. then the **** hits the fan. you
> should be jumping miss tick's bones. not mine. i stood
> up to a moron. and you...just flamed me...no who's lame??
>
> keep all concise. if i could gain one. just one conversation of
> relavence without caustic comments then this ng would
> start out to be the a true 'help desk'...
>
>
>

What have you done to "help"? So far you've tried to turn it into a
Dell bashing group.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> why? wrote:

>> On 28 Jun 2005 18:10:12 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

>>>Gordon wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:16:58 +0000, SirReal wrote:


>>>>> my original question was: why did you advertise
>>>>> a product with a 30 gig hard drive and sent one
>>>>> with only 25 gig.

>>>> Quite right. Take the humble floppy disk. 2MB unformatted, only 1.44 MB
>>>> formatted!

>>>There used to be a way (well, I'm sure there still is <g>) to get
>>>something like 1.8MB out of a floppy. Damned if I remember how, but
>>>I've done it -- just for the sake of the experiment.

>> DMF 1.68 and 1.72 etc, this will let you do it WinImage from
>> www.winimage.com

> I could've sworn it could be done without any special software, by
> tweaking some native DOS file. I think I vaguely remember some file
> that contained formats available to the native format command, and
> adding lines that made available some larger formats; seems like there
> were four or six of them or so (1.8MB being the largest (or at least
> the largest recommended, before the magnetic granularity of the floppy
> medium itself made things too edgy). Maybe I'm misremembering.


superformat command (from the fdutils package)

e.g. to format a 1743K disk in drive 0 (83 cylinders times 21 sectors)

$ superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83


In Windoze, I've used FAIZ Superformat 2.7 (34.7KB)

http://www.bitszone.com/art542.aspx

<q>
SuperFormat lets you create additional disk space on a standard 3.5 inch
floppy disk. The program formats the floppy to hold 1.72 MB of data
instead of the standard 1.44 MB. It comes with an adequate help file and
is easy to use. NOTES: SuperFormat runs in a DOS box. Users report that
SuperFormat does not format disks properly in Win 2000/ XP. (Previously
formatted disks can be used in these OS.)
</q>

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SirReal wrote:


>> I'm sorry, but I have to rate this flame at a -6 on a 1-10 scale. The
>> lames
>> are...well, just lame, the grammar stinks, and given your lack of
>> attribution,
>> you're flaming...nobody.

> ...no sir...a flame was not intended. lame??, gave you info that you 'probly
> didn't know about. grammer, does it matter is the message was understood,
> wasn't it??
> attribution?? gain the info straight from the horses mouth.
> i would think that at some would have appreciated it.

> flaming nobody??. then i would have to conclude miss
> tick is nobody.

> i came here with a simple request. gained some very
> concrete information. then the **** hits the fan. you
> should be jumping miss tick's bones. not mine. i stood
> up to a moron. and you...just flamed me...no who's lame??

> keep all concise. if i could gain one. just one conversation of relavence
> without caustic comments then this ng would
> start out to be the a true 'help desk'...

....who..types. like... this...for.. real?

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DC wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> why? wrote:

>>> On 28 Jun 2005 18:10:12 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

>>>>Gordon wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:16:58 +0000, SirReal wrote:


>>>>>> my original question was: why did you advertise
>>>>>> a product with a 30 gig hard drive and sent one
>>>>>> with only 25 gig.

>>>>> Quite right. Take the humble floppy disk. 2MB unformatted, only 1.44 MB
>>>>> formatted!

>>>>There used to be a way (well, I'm sure there still is <g>) to get
>>>>something like 1.8MB out of a floppy. Damned if I remember how, but
>>>>I've done it -- just for the sake of the experiment.

>>> DMF 1.68 and 1.72 etc, this will let you do it WinImage from
>>> www.winimage.com

>> I could've sworn it could be done without any special software, by
>> tweaking some native DOS file. I think I vaguely remember some file
>> that contained formats available to the native format command, and
>> adding lines that made available some larger formats; seems like there
>> were four or six of them or so (1.8MB being the largest (or at least
>> the largest recommended, before the magnetic granularity of the floppy
>> medium itself made things too edgy). Maybe I'm misremembering.

> superformat command (from the fdutils package)

> e.g. to format a 1743K disk in drive 0 (83 cylinders times 21 sectors)

> $ superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83

> In Windoze, I've used FAIZ Superformat 2.7 (34.7KB)

> http://www.bitszone.com/art542.aspx

><q>
> SuperFormat lets you create additional disk space on a standard 3.5 inch
> floppy disk. The program formats the floppy to hold 1.72 MB of data
> instead of the standard 1.44 MB. It comes with an adequate help file and
> is easy to use. NOTES: SuperFormat runs in a DOS box. Users report that
> SuperFormat does not format disks properly in Win 2000/ XP. (Previously
> formatted disks can be used in these OS.)
></q>

So, would other systems be able to somehow read those, without matching
software?

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> DC wrote:
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> why? wrote:

>>>> On 28 Jun 2005 18:10:12 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

>>>>>Gordon wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:16:58 +0000, SirReal wrote:


>>>>>>> my original question was: why did you advertise
>>>>>>> a product with a 30 gig hard drive and sent one
>>>>>>> with only 25 gig.

>>>>>> Quite right. Take the humble floppy disk. 2MB unformatted, only 1.44 MB
>>>>>> formatted!

>>>>>There used to be a way (well, I'm sure there still is <g>) to get
>>>>>something like 1.8MB out of a floppy. Damned if I remember how, but
>>>>>I've done it -- just for the sake of the experiment.

>>>> DMF 1.68 and 1.72 etc, this will let you do it WinImage from
>>>> www.winimage.com

>>> I could've sworn it could be done without any special software, by
>>> tweaking some native DOS file. I think I vaguely remember some file
>>> that contained formats available to the native format command, and
>>> adding lines that made available some larger formats; seems like there
>>> were four or six of them or so (1.8MB being the largest (or at least
>>> the largest recommended, before the magnetic granularity of the floppy
>>> medium itself made things too edgy). Maybe I'm misremembering.

>> superformat command (from the fdutils package)

>> e.g. to format a 1743K disk in drive 0 (83 cylinders times 21 sectors)

>> $ superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83

>> In Windoze, I've used FAIZ Superformat 2.7 (34.7KB)

>> http://www.bitszone.com/art542.aspx

>><q>
>> SuperFormat lets you create additional disk space on a standard 3.5 inch
>> floppy disk. The program formats the floppy to hold 1.72 MB of data
>> instead of the standard 1.44 MB. It comes with an adequate help file and
>> is easy to use. NOTES: SuperFormat runs in a DOS box. Users report that
>> SuperFormat does not format disks properly in Win 2000/ XP. (Previously
>> formatted disks can be used in these OS.)
>></q>

> So, would other systems be able to somehow read those, without matching
> software?

IME, yes. Before discovering superformat/fdutils, I had used the
windows program to create a diskette for use in linux (Mandrake 10.0
boot floppy wouldn't fit on a 1.44MB, IIRC) and experienced no problems.
I then tried a superformatted linux diskette on windows. Same -- no
problems.

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