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Old 05-12-2004, 09:12 AM   #1
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How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way
???
Thanks, Manfred




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Old 05-12-2004, 09:33 AM   #2
Allan Herriman
 
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:48 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
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>How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way
>???
>Thanks, Manfred


Is this for a CRC?

Regards,
Allan.


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Old 05-12-2004, 09:59 AM   #3
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"Allan Herriman" <> schrieb im
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:48 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
> <> wrote:
>
> >How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way
> >???
> >Thanks, Manfred

>
> Is this for a CRC?
>
> Regards,
> Allan.


It's not exactly a normal CRC, but it's a checking of a bitstream (I think
so).
Manfred




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Old 05-12-2004, 10:20 AM   #4
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:59:03 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
<> wrote:

>
>"Allan Herriman" <> schrieb im
>Newsbeitrag news:...
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:48 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> >How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way
>> >???
>> >Thanks, Manfred

>>
>> Is this for a CRC?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Allan.

>
>It's not exactly a normal CRC, but it's a checking of a bitstream (I think
>so).


What is abnormal about it? Do you have a specification you can share?

What is the bit rate? This will determine the approach you take:
lower rates are handled in a bit-serial manner and higher rates are
handled in a bit-parallel manner.
The cutover between serial and parallel implementations will be
between 30-300Mb/s, depending on the technology and what clocks you
have available, etc.

Regards,
Allan.


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Old 05-17-2004, 03:39 PM   #5
Manfred Balik
 
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To find a valid telegram in a bitstream I have to divide a 1024 Bit word by
a 76 Bit word
if the reminder=0 it is the valid telegram
if the reminder/=0 the 1024 Bits are shifted and the next bit from the
bitstream is added
divide again, and so on ....

I have tried to program the algorithm like the mathematical division, but
it's much to slow and needs a vast number of logiccells
How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way
???

Thanks, Manfred

"Allan Herriman" <> schrieb im
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:59:03 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
> <> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Allan Herriman" <> schrieb

im
> >Newsbeitrag news:...
> >> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:48 +0200, "Manfred Balik"
> >> <> wrote:
> >>
> >> >How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy

way
> >> >???
> >> >Thanks, Manfred
> >>
> >> Is this for a CRC?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Allan.

> >
> >It's not exactly a normal CRC, but it's a checking of a bitstream (I

think
> >so).

>
> What is abnormal about it? Do you have a specification you can share?
>
> What is the bit rate? This will determine the approach you take:
> lower rates are handled in a bit-serial manner and higher rates are
> handled in a bit-parallel manner.
> The cutover between serial and parallel implementations will be
> between 30-300Mb/s, depending on the technology and what clocks you
> have available, etc.
>
> Regards,
> Allan.





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Old 05-18-2004, 03:37 AM   #6
Mike Treseler
 
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Manfred Balik wrote:

> I have tried to program the algorithm like the mathematical division, but
> it's much to slow and needs a vast number of logiccells
> How can I calculate the remainder of a polynomial division in an easy way


How about a shifter and a few interposed xor gates.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=lf...inder+hardware

--Mike Treseler


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