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Hi all! I have a fairly recent problem pop up but one that I cannot live
with - nor seem to troubleshoot.
I have a Celeron 466 clocked to 525 w/ 256 Ram and 32M V-Card, modem and
Ethernet card. Also running ME, cordless MS mouse/keyboard and 80 Gig HDD
partitioned to 3 drives ( c:\ = 8Gig)

I realize this is a lengthy explanation but when I comb through other posts,
the respondents always seem to need more details so here they are.

First, not looking for any 'buy a new PC' or 'throw away ME' type of advice
because that doesn't solve anything! Fact is, I am happy with ME and this PC
is fast enough for what I need it for. I keep it fairly tuned - software
wise, no misc programs at start-up nor PCHealth, system restore is off etc.
I've been on plenty of friends' PCs running XP that are far slower than mine
for booting up/powering down with CPUs of the most recent clockspeeds.

Here's the problem:
I recently moved and now have hi-speed DSL. It ran quite well at first [ a
week ago ] but I am having major problems now; perhaps the problems were
there but I never used the software that seems to make the problems appear.
Most noticeably, whenever I am on the Net, particularly when watching
streaming video or downloading via P2P, the mouse freezes up intermittently
and momentarily. The problem gradually worsens. Videos seem to pause and
the sound repeats itself - often for several seconds and then everything
resumes only to happen again. The strange thing is, even when I shut the net
off, the problem persists, but not as bad AND seemingly goes away with time
but never completely. Like I stated, this wasn't evident at first so I didn'
t draw a connection to using the Internet. It can get extremely bad when I
do several searches on a P2P program at once. There is no HD activity when
the pauses occur and the problem does not occur unless I have connected to
the net. Again, if I disconnect, the problem persists but not as bad.

I have also noticed one or more windows in IE freezing - well, the window
opens but the page doesn't load nor do toolbars so I must 'End Task'.
Frequent soft reboots are also required, leading to a scandisk. This is from
one of two reasons: the mouse never 'unpauses' OR, during powerdown, I get a
black screen and the cycle does not complete. In EITHER of these instances,
'Ctrl-Alt-Del' does NOTHING except OCCASSIONALLY, I will hear the system
internal speaker click rapidly whenever I move the mouse (beep on error?)

I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over 6000!
NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were all
located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I use.
They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size just a
different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to the
problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on
demand - which is rare.

What have I done to troubleshoot? Trial and error to narrow down when this
problem appears - as already explained. Have defragmented the drive, cleaned
the registry (JV16 powertools), uninstalled and reinstalled a few programs,
and spent a lot of time searching for others with similar problems. The
latter I have found and the suspect often seems to be a network card ( which
I have, obviously ). Another frequent suspect is the mouse/keyboard. Mine
are both wireless. However, no clear solutions have been posted.

Whats my next step?

Thanks a heap for reading!

MajBach

"MajBach1" <> wrote in message
news:jLlMd.17786$ ...
> Hi all! I have a fairly recent problem pop up but one that I cannot
> live
> with - nor seem to troubleshoot.
> I have a Celeron 466 clocked to 525 w/ 256 Ram and 32M V-Card, modem
> and
> Ethernet card. Also running ME, cordless MS mouse/keyboard and 80 Gig
> HDD
> partitioned to 3 drives ( c:\ = 8Gig)
>
> I realize this is a lengthy explanation but when I comb through other
> posts,
> the respondents always seem to need more details so here they are.
>
> First, not looking for any 'buy a new PC' or 'throw away ME' type of
> advice
> because that doesn't solve anything! Fact is, I am happy with ME and
> this PC
> is fast enough for what I need it for. I keep it fairly tuned -
> software
> wise, no misc programs at start-up nor PCHealth, system restore is off
> etc.
> I've been on plenty of friends' PCs running XP that are far slower
> than mine
> for booting up/powering down with CPUs of the most recent clockspeeds.
>
> Here's the problem:
> I recently moved and now have hi-speed DSL. It ran quite well at first
> [ a
> week ago ] but I am having major problems now; perhaps the problems
> were
> there but I never used the software that seems to make the problems
> appear.
> Most noticeably, whenever I am on the Net, particularly when watching
> streaming video or downloading via P2P, the mouse freezes up
> intermittently
> and momentarily. The problem gradually worsens. Videos seem to pause
> and
> the sound repeats itself - often for several seconds and then
> everything
> resumes only to happen again. The strange thing is, even when I shut
> the net
> off, the problem persists, but not as bad AND seemingly goes away with
> time
> but never completely. Like I stated, this wasn't evident at first so I
> didn'
> t draw a connection to using the Internet. It can get extremely bad
> when I
> do several searches on a P2P program at once. There is no HD activity
> when
> the pauses occur and the problem does not occur unless I have
> connected to
> the net. Again, if I disconnect, the problem persists but not as bad.
>
> I have also noticed one or more windows in IE freezing - well, the
> window
> opens but the page doesn't load nor do toolbars so I must 'End Task'.
> Frequent soft reboots are also required, leading to a scandisk. This
> is from
> one of two reasons: the mouse never 'unpauses' OR, during powerdown, I
> get a
> black screen and the cycle does not complete. In EITHER of these
> instances,
> 'Ctrl-Alt-Del' does NOTHING except OCCASSIONALLY, I will hear the
> system
> internal speaker click rapidly whenever I move the mouse (beep on
> error?)
>
> I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over
> 6000!
> NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were
> all
> located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I
> use.
> They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size
> just a
> different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to
> the
> problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on
> demand - which is rare.
>
> What have I done to troubleshoot? Trial and error to narrow down when
> this
> problem appears - as already explained. Have defragmented the drive,
> cleaned
> the registry (JV16 powertools), uninstalled and reinstalled a few
> programs,
> and spent a lot of time searching for others with similar problems.
> The
> latter I have found and the suspect often seems to be a network card
> ( which
> I have, obviously ). Another frequent suspect is the mouse/keyboard.
> Mine
> are both wireless. However, no clear solutions have been posted.
>
> Whats my next step?
>
> Thanks a heap for reading!
>
> MajBach
>
"I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on demand -
which is rare." <<========= ????
<FAINT>
<PLOP>

Thanks for the GREAT advice, wormy.

"WormWood" <> wrote in message
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>
> "MajBach1" <> wrote in message
> news:jLlMd.17786$ ...
> > Hi all! I have a fairly recent problem pop up but one that I cannot
> > live
> > with - nor seem to troubleshoot.
> > I have a Celeron 466 clocked to 525 w/ 256 Ram and 32M V-Card, modem
> > and
> > Ethernet card. Also running ME, cordless MS mouse/keyboard and 80 Gig
> > HDD
> > partitioned to 3 drives ( c:\ = 8Gig)
> >
> > I realize this is a lengthy explanation but when I comb through other
> > posts,
> > the respondents always seem to need more details so here they are.
> >
> > First, not looking for any 'buy a new PC' or 'throw away ME' type of
> > advice
> > because that doesn't solve anything! Fact is, I am happy with ME and
> > this PC
> > is fast enough for what I need it for. I keep it fairly tuned -
> > software
> > wise, no misc programs at start-up nor PCHealth, system restore is off
> > etc.
> > I've been on plenty of friends' PCs running XP that are far slower
> > than mine
> > for booting up/powering down with CPUs of the most recent clockspeeds.
> >
> > Here's the problem:
> > I recently moved and now have hi-speed DSL. It ran quite well at first
> > [ a
> > week ago ] but I am having major problems now; perhaps the problems
> > were
> > there but I never used the software that seems to make the problems
> > appear.
> > Most noticeably, whenever I am on the Net, particularly when watching
> > streaming video or downloading via P2P, the mouse freezes up
> > intermittently
> > and momentarily. The problem gradually worsens. Videos seem to pause
> > and
> > the sound repeats itself - often for several seconds and then
> > everything
> > resumes only to happen again. The strange thing is, even when I shut
> > the net
> > off, the problem persists, but not as bad AND seemingly goes away with
> > time
> > but never completely. Like I stated, this wasn't evident at first so I
> > didn'
> > t draw a connection to using the Internet. It can get extremely bad
> > when I
> > do several searches on a P2P program at once. There is no HD activity
> > when
> > the pauses occur and the problem does not occur unless I have
> > connected to
> > the net. Again, if I disconnect, the problem persists but not as bad.
> >
> > I have also noticed one or more windows in IE freezing - well, the
> > window
> > opens but the page doesn't load nor do toolbars so I must 'End Task'.
> > Frequent soft reboots are also required, leading to a scandisk. This
> > is from
> > one of two reasons: the mouse never 'unpauses' OR, during powerdown, I
> > get a
> > black screen and the cycle does not complete. In EITHER of these
> > instances,
> > 'Ctrl-Alt-Del' does NOTHING except OCCASSIONALLY, I will hear the
> > system
> > internal speaker click rapidly whenever I move the mouse (beep on
> > error?)
> >
> > I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over
> > 6000!
> > NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were
> > all
> > located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I
> > use.
> > They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size
> > just a
> > different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to
> > the
> > problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on
> > demand - which is rare.
> >
> > What have I done to troubleshoot? Trial and error to narrow down when
> > this
> > problem appears - as already explained. Have defragmented the drive,
> > cleaned
> > the registry (JV16 powertools), uninstalled and reinstalled a few
> > programs,
> > and spent a lot of time searching for others with similar problems.
> > The
> > latter I have found and the suspect often seems to be a network card
> > ( which
> > I have, obviously ). Another frequent suspect is the mouse/keyboard.
> > Mine
> > are both wireless. However, no clear solutions have been posted.
> >
> > Whats my next step?
> >
> > Thanks a heap for reading!
> >
> > MajBach
> >
> "I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on demand -
> which is rare." <<========= ????
> <FAINT>
> <PLOP>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 04:00:55 -0500, "MajBach1"
<> wrote:

>I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over 6000!
>NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were all
>located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I use.
>They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size just a
>different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to the
>problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on
>demand - which is rare.

I'll just take up this part.

SIX THOUSAND!

You don't mention running any antispyware applications though you do
mention p2p software. Most p2p apps install spyware.

You aren't running a firewall? That's not good at all. You might as
well wave your hd out the window and beg somebody to PLEASE come
smash it with a hammer! Of course if your DSL modem has NAT, a
firewall is much less necessary.

You have system restore turned off so you can't roll the machine back
to before the problem started.

The mouse clicking indicates that windows has either crashed or is not
accepting user input.

I'd recommend some heavy duty scanning for spywares after allowing
your AV to remove whatever viruses it finds if it can.

This page will check your browser for some common parasites, give you
a concise description of the problem and point you to three excellent
antispyware programs. www.doxdesk.com/parasite

Swill

--
"Local Power Company, how may I assist you today?"

"My power is going out."

"Have all your lights gone?"

"No, just the one in the refrigerator."

www.userfriendly.org

Thanks, Gov! I have been getting the same advice from others regarding
firewalls etc. Guess having dial -up for years has made me naive I NEVER hat
viruses or spyware. I have since started run both.
I have someone on another NG walking me through a troubleshooting process as
well.
BTW, did a scan for spyware and had several registry entries but no
applications installed.
Randy


"Governor Swill" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 04:00:55 -0500, "MajBach1"
> <> wrote:
>
> >I did scan for viruses yesterday and to my surprise there were over 6000!
> >NONE of these activated during start-up however. These viruses were all
> >located in 2 directories only and not associated with any program I use.
> >They were all the same virus - as reported by Mcafee - same file size
just a
> >different name. In a nutshell, I do not feel this is at all related to
the
> >problem. I also DO NOT run the virus scanner or a firewall except on
> >demand - which is rare.
>
> I'll just take up this part.
>
> SIX THOUSAND!
>
> You don't mention running any antispyware applications though you do
> mention p2p software. Most p2p apps install spyware.
>
> You aren't running a firewall? That's not good at all. You might as
> well wave your hd out the window and beg somebody to PLEASE come
> smash it with a hammer! Of course if your DSL modem has NAT, a
> firewall is much less necessary.
>
> You have system restore turned off so you can't roll the machine back
> to before the problem started.
>
> The mouse clicking indicates that windows has either crashed or is not
> accepting user input.
>
> I'd recommend some heavy duty scanning for spywares after allowing
> your AV to remove whatever viruses it finds if it can.
>
> This page will check your browser for some common parasites, give you
> a concise description of the problem and point you to three excellent
> antispyware programs. www.doxdesk.com/parasite
>
> Swill
>
> --
> "Local Power Company, how may I assist you today?"
>
> "My power is going out."
>
> "Have all your lights gone?"
>
> "No, just the one in the refrigerator."
>
> www.userfriendly.org