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Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't boot with
floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something wrong with my MB?
Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like 6 months old. My MB is a
MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to the bios to check things out.
Processor fan is working.


TIA,
Pat

pcgr1 wrote:
> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
> freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't
> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like 6
> months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
>
>
> TIA,
> Pat

In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
power cord out!

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Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it says,
detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with the new HD it
says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it was the HD. Am I
missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm going thru withdrawals
without my pc working.

Thanks,
Pat



"Stevo" <> wrote in message
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> pcgr1 wrote:
> > Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
> > freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't
> > boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
> > wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like 6
> > months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
> > the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
> >
> >
> > TIA,
> > Pat
>
> In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
> would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
> sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
> power cord out!
>
> --
> Stevo
> (pull the PIN to reply by e-mail)
>
>

Tell us (TINU) more about the drives. How many? What types? etc.

"pcgr1" <> wrote in message
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| Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it says,
| detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with the new HD
it
| says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it was the HD. Am I
| missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm going thru withdrawals
| without my pc working.
|
| Thanks,
| Pat
|
|
|
| "Stevo" <> wrote in message
| news:41a8ece7$0$24380$ u...
| > pcgr1 wrote:
| > > Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
| > > freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't
| > > boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
| > > wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like 6
| > > months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
| > > the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
| > >
| > >
| > > TIA,
| > > Pat
| >
| > In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
| > would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
| > sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
| > power cord out!
| >
| > --
| > Stevo
| > (pull the PIN to reply by e-mail)
| >
| >
|
|

pcgr1 wrote:
> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
> freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't boot with
> floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something wrong with my MB?
> Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like 6 months old. My MB is a
> MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to the bios to check things out.
> Processor fan is working.
>
>
> TIA,
> Pat
>
>

To really determine if it is a HW or OS problem (Windows ME proved to be
the very worst Redmond excreted out of their vowels) get a hold of the
Knoppix CD and see if you can boot from the CD drive. If you are able to
boot, then you have an OS problem.

AeoN wrote:
> pcgr1 wrote:
>> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up. It
>> freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It won't
>> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
>> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like
>> 6 months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
>> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>> Pat
>>
>>
>
> To really determine if it is a HW or OS problem (Windows ME proved to
> be the very worst Redmond excreted out of their vowels) get a hold of
> the
> Knoppix CD and see if you can boot from the CD drive. If you are able
> to boot, then you have an OS problem.

If it doesn't get past the BIOS boot screen, how can it possibly be an
OS problem?

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pcgr1 wrote:
> Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it
> says, detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with
> the new HD it says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it was
> the HD. Am I missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm
> going thru withdrawals without my pc working.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
>
>
> "Stevo" <> wrote in message
> news:41a8ece7$0$24380$ u...
>> pcgr1 wrote:
>>> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up.
>>> It freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It
>>> won't
>>> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
>>> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like
>>> 6 months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
>>> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Pat
>>
>> In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
>> would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
>> sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
>> power cord out!

It checks the memory OK but you can't get into the BIOS.. sounds odd.

If the BIOS isn't recognising the hard drives during boot, then it might
be the motherboard IDE controller that is bad.

As the Toolman asked, what are your drives and configuration? Drives
jumpered OK? Cables checked/replaced?

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How do I replace the ide controller? Well, I have 2 HD. One is the master
and the other is the slave. They both use the same cable. Black side of
the interface cable goes to the master and the grey end goes to the slave
HD. The red light stays on and it doesn't allow me to get to the bios
screen. I try and ctrl, alt del and it won't.

Thanks,
Pat

"Stevo" <> wrote in message
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> pcgr1 wrote:
> > Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it
> > says, detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with
> > the new HD it says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it was
> > the HD. Am I missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm
> > going thru withdrawals without my pc working.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stevo" <> wrote in message
> > news:41a8ece7$0$24380$ u...
> >> pcgr1 wrote:
> >>> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up.
> >>> It freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It
> >>> won't
> >>> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
> >>> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like
> >>> 6 months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
> >>> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TIA,
> >>> Pat
> >>
> >> In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
> >> would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
> >> sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
> >> power cord out!
>
> It checks the memory OK but you can't get into the BIOS.. sounds odd.
>
> If the BIOS isn't recognising the hard drives during boot, then it might
> be the motherboard IDE controller that is bad.
>
> As the Toolman asked, what are your drives and configuration? Drives
> jumpered OK? Cables checked/replaced?
>
> --
> Stevo
> (pull the PIN to reply by e-mail)
>
>

Your IDE controller is probably built-in on the motherboard. If so, you
can't replace it as such.

Have you tried unplugging the IDE cable from the motherboard, and rebooting?
It should eventually get past the "lock" and attempt to boot from the floppy
disk. If that works, then you should be able to get into the BIOS on the
next reboot and see if there's something wrong there. (I usually unplug the
CD-ROM IDE cable as well when I have to do that.)

"pcgr1" <> wrote in message
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| How do I replace the ide controller? Well, I have 2 HD. One is the master
| and the other is the slave. They both use the same cable. Black side of
| the interface cable goes to the master and the grey end goes to the slave
| HD. The red light stays on and it doesn't allow me to get to the bios
| screen. I try and ctrl, alt del and it won't.
|
| Thanks,
| Pat
|
| "Stevo" <> wrote in message
| news:41a8f5ef$0$20379$ u...
| > pcgr1 wrote:
| > > Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it
| > > says, detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with
| > > the new HD it says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it was
| > > the HD. Am I missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm
| > > going thru withdrawals without my pc working.
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > > Pat
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "Stevo" <> wrote in message
| > > news:41a8ece7$0$24380$ u...
| > >> pcgr1 wrote:
| > >>> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up.
| > >>> It freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It
| > >>> won't
| > >>> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
| > >>> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is like
| > >>> 6 months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get to
| > >>> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
| > >>>
| > >>>
| > >>> TIA,
| > >>> Pat
| > >>
| > >> In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My guess
| > >> would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
| > >> sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull the
| > >> power cord out!
| >
| > It checks the memory OK but you can't get into the BIOS.. sounds odd.
| >
| > If the BIOS isn't recognising the hard drives during boot, then it might
| > be the motherboard IDE controller that is bad.
| >
| > As the Toolman asked, what are your drives and configuration? Drives
| > jumpered OK? Cables checked/replaced?
| >
| > --
| > Stevo
| > (pull the PIN to reply by e-mail)
| >
| >
|
|

OKay, I unplugged the ide cable from the master HD and it went to the
millenium startup, where you choose if you want to boot from cd, hd or
whatever.(I put the startup disk) What does this mean now? Is my
controller bad?

Pat

Toolman Tim" <> wrote in message
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> Your IDE controller is probably built-in on the motherboard. If so, you
> can't replace it as such.
>
> Have you tried unplugging the IDE cable from the motherboard, and
rebooting?
> It should eventually get past the "lock" and attempt to boot from the
floppy
> disk. If that works, then you should be able to get into the BIOS on the
> next reboot and see if there's something wrong there. (I usually unplug
the
> CD-ROM IDE cable as well when I have to do that.)
>
> "pcgr1" <> wrote in message
> news:hKidnZdueJ2sZzXcRVn-...
> | How do I replace the ide controller? Well, I have 2 HD. One is the
master
> | and the other is the slave. They both use the same cable. Black side
of
> | the interface cable goes to the master and the grey end goes to the
slave
> | HD. The red light stays on and it doesn't allow me to get to the bios
> | screen. I try and ctrl, alt del and it won't.
> |
> | Thanks,
> | Pat
> |
> | "Stevo" <> wrote in message
> | news:41a8f5ef$0$20379$ u...
> | > pcgr1 wrote:
> | > > Yes, it ran memory testing and it said okay, then it freezes when it
> | > > says, detecting ide drives. That's why I bought a new HD, but with
> | > > the new HD it says the same thing. I'm at a lost. I was sure it
was
> | > > the HD. Am I missing something? I'm on my laptop now. But I'm
> | > > going thru withdrawals without my pc working.
> | > >
> | > > Thanks,
> | > > Pat
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "Stevo" <> wrote in message
> | > > news:41a8ece7$0$24380$ u...
> | > >> pcgr1 wrote:
> | > >>> Okay, my pc froze and I went to reboot and now it won't boot up.
> | > >>> It freezes at the prompt that says push del to enter setup. It
> | > >>> won't
> | > >>> boot with floppy, bought a new HD and still nothing. Is something
> | > >>> wrong with my MB? Please someone help?I use Windows ME. MB is
like
> | > >>> 6 months old. My MB is a MSI AMD Athlon xp 2000+. I can't get
to
> | > >>> the bios to check things out. Processor fan is working.
> | > >>>
> | > >>>
> | > >>> TIA,
> | > >>> Pat
> | > >>
> | > >> In the boot up screen, do you get any information about RAM? My
guess
> | > >> would be bad memory, but I would try reseating what you have in the
> | > >> sockets first - make sure the power is completely off - even pull
the
> | > >> power cord out!
> | >
> | > It checks the memory OK but you can't get into the BIOS.. sounds odd.
> | >
> | > If the BIOS isn't recognising the hard drives during boot, then it
might
> | > be the motherboard IDE controller that is bad.
> | >
> | > As the Toolman asked, what are your drives and configuration? Drives
> | > jumpered OK? Cables checked/replaced?
> | >
> | > --
> | > Stevo
> | > (pull the PIN to reply by e-mail)
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>