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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:30:51 -0800 "Geno Ardi"
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>I've heard that installing WIN98SE cures this, but don't have it to
>install. I know that XP will fix it, but this computer only has 64
>meg, a 2.0 gig hard drive, and a 366 Celeron processor.


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"Geno Ardi" <> wrote in message
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| First let me say, I'd upgrade if I could, but stuck w/this clunker.
|
| I have an IBM Thinkpad 1452i (~1999), with WIN98 original version. I
| am attempting to install an Epson Stylus 925 (ISB only) printer, but
| having a problem.
|
| There is an ISB port on this computer, and I connected the printer to
| it, but the computer doesn't recognize it.
|
| The computer BIOS states that the ISB is active.
|
| In Control Panel / System / Device Mgr / USB controller / it shows:
|
| 1) ALi PCI to USB open host controller (Acer Labs vers 3)
| 2) USB root hub (Std USB host controller)
|
| They both say they are working properly.
|
| With the USB cable linked to the computer, if I turn the printer on,
| OR if I boot the computer with the printer connected and on,
| nothing happens. No 'new hardward found' message.
|
| In the 'Add Printer Wizard', I can select Epson Photo 925, but the
| choice of ports does NOT include USB, only COM1, COM3 & LPT1.
|
| I went to WINDOWSUPDATE.COM, scanned for updates, it listed 22
| critical updates, 43 other updates, but NO driver updates.
|
| I've heard that installing WIN98SE cures this, but don't have it to
| install. I know that XP will fix it, but this computer only has 64
| meg, a 2.0 gig hard drive, and a 366 Celeron processor.
|
| Is there any hope? Thanks in advance!
|
| Geno Ardi

Maybe you plugged the printer in BEFORE you ran the setup disk, huh? If so,
that was not a good move. USB on Win9x nearly always requires the drivers to
be loaded in the computer before hooking up the new peripheral.

And Windows Update isn't going to have printer drivers for your printer. You
need to get them from www.epson.com. Your USB drivers should be with the
discs that came with the computer, or on the hard drive.

(Have you tried any other USB devices on your computer, and do they work? )

You will probably need to 1) uninstall any and everything you have tried
that relates to the usb printer and possibly even the usb ports themselves.
2) boot in safe mode, go to device manager (right click My Computer, select
properties, second tab on top) and check while in safe mode that nothing
related to your printer/usb stuff is in there. Delete it if there is. 3)
with the printer unplugged from the computer, reboot. Let the computer setup
the USB hardware again.

Then, carefully follow the printer setup instructions. Like I said before,
you probably will have to run the installation CD before you plug in the
printer, then the setup program should tell you when to plug it in. At
least, that's what I've experienced with a dozen HP printers, several
digital cameras, scanners, etc.

"Geno Ardi" <> wrote in message
news:...
> First let me say, I'd upgrade if I could, but stuck w/this clunker.
>
> I have an IBM Thinkpad 1452i (~1999), with WIN98 original version. I
> am attempting to install an Epson Stylus 925 (ISB only) printer, but
> having a problem.

If you don't have the software for the printer, you might go here and get
the
drivers. If this doesn't help you might try google.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/s...eBVCookie=yes&
oid=14414&prodoid=22708393&infoType=Downloads&plat form=Windows

First let me say, I'd upgrade if I could, but stuck w/this clunker.

I have an IBM Thinkpad 1452i (~1999), with WIN98 original version. I
am attempting to install an Epson Stylus 925 (ISB only) printer, but
having a problem.

There is an ISB port on this computer, and I connected the printer to
it, but the computer doesn't recognize it.

The computer BIOS states that the ISB is active.

In Control Panel / System / Device Mgr / USB controller / it shows:

1) ALi PCI to USB open host controller (Acer Labs vers 3)
2) USB root hub (Std USB host controller)

They both say they are working properly.

With the USB cable linked to the computer, if I turn the printer on,
OR if I boot the computer with the printer connected and on,
nothing happens. No 'new hardward found' message.

In the 'Add Printer Wizard', I can select Epson Photo 925, but the
choice of ports does NOT include USB, only COM1, COM3 & LPT1.

I went to WINDOWSUPDATE.COM, scanned for updates, it listed 22
critical updates, 43 other updates, but NO driver updates.

I've heard that installing WIN98SE cures this, but don't have it to
install. I know that XP will fix it, but this computer only has 64
meg, a 2.0 gig hard drive, and a 366 Celeron processor.

Is there any hope? Thanks in advance!

Geno Ardi

"Geno Ardi" <> wrote in message
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|
| >Maybe you plugged the printer in BEFORE you ran the setup disk, huh? If
so,
| >that was not a good move. USB on Win9x nearly always requires the drivers
to
| >be loaded in the computer before hooking up the new peripheral.
|
| I have the disk, but downloaded the latest from Epson. I did not
| connect the printer until the install program said to, and at that
| point did not get recognition ("new hardware found")
|
| >And Windows Update isn't going to have printer drivers for your printer.
You
| >need to get them from www.epson.com.
|
| I've done that, and that's the file I used to attempt installation.
|
| > Your USB drivers should be with the
| >discs that came with the computer, or on the hard drive.
|
| They are. They just don't seem to work.
|
| >(Have you tried any other USB devices on your computer, and do they
work? )
|
| If I had one, I'd plug it in. Or, if I had another computer, I'd plug
| in the printer to make sure the printer and cable were OK.
|
| >You will probably need to 1) uninstall any and everything you have tried
| >that relates to the usb printer and possibly even the usb ports
themselves.
| >2) boot in safe mode, go to device manager (right click My Computer,
select
| >properties, second tab on top) and check while in safe mode that nothing
| >related to your printer/usb stuff is in there.
|
| I saw nothing but the two drivers I mentioned:
| 1) openhci.sys, ntkern.vxd
| 2) USB hub, ntkern.vxd
| both microsoft 4.10.1998
|
| I'm thinking there might be driver corruption, even though I did
| everything according to instructions from the install program. I'm
| thinking I should delete both USB drivers.
|
| Question: Will Windows reinstall them from the CAB files? I don't
| have a Win 98 disc, as none came with the computer.
|
| Thanks again.

There is a strong possibility that the Ali drivers for the USB are not in
your system's CAB files. You might want to check for updates to the Ali
chipset for your motherboard. If you don't know what the motherboard is,
download Belarc Advisor www.belarc.com and it should tell you. Then you may
need to go to either the manufactures website, or to Ali's website.

I wouldn't delete the drivers until you were sure you had the replacements
ready.

"Geno Ardi" <> wrote in message
news:...
|
| >Maybe you plugged the printer in BEFORE you ran the setup disk, huh? If
so,
| >that was not a good move. USB on Win9x nearly always requires the drivers
to
| >be loaded in the computer before hooking up the new peripheral.
|
| I have the disk, but downloaded the latest from Epson. I did not
| connect the printer until the install program said to, and at that
| point did not get recognition ("new hardware found")
|
| >And Windows Update isn't going to have printer drivers for your printer.
You
| >need to get them from www.epson.com.
|
| I've done that, and that's the file I used to attempt installation.
|
| > Your USB drivers should be with the
| >discs that came with the computer, or on the hard drive.
|
| They are. They just don't seem to work.
|
| >(Have you tried any other USB devices on your computer, and do they
work? )
|
| If I had one, I'd plug it in. Or, if I had another computer, I'd plug
| in the printer to make sure the printer and cable were OK.
|
| >You will probably need to 1) uninstall any and everything you have tried
| >that relates to the usb printer and possibly even the usb ports
themselves.
| >2) boot in safe mode, go to device manager (right click My Computer,
select
| >properties, second tab on top) and check while in safe mode that nothing
| >related to your printer/usb stuff is in there.
|
| I saw nothing but the two drivers I mentioned:
| 1) openhci.sys, ntkern.vxd
| 2) USB hub, ntkern.vxd
| both microsoft 4.10.1998
|
| I'm thinking there might be driver corruption, even though I did
| everything according to instructions from the install program. I'm
| thinking I should delete both USB drivers.
|
| Question: Will Windows reinstall them from the CAB files? I don't
| have a Win 98 disc, as none came with the computer.
|
| Thanks again.
|

Oh - and run the CD from Epson. The drivers on the website are quite
possibly UPDATES only and don't include the entire setup. I know that for a
fact, since I've been having problems with my Epson scanner <g>

"Geno Ardi" <> wrote in message
news:...
|
| >Oh - and run the CD from Epson. The drivers on the website are quite
| >possibly UPDATES only and don't include the entire setup. I know that for
a
| >fact, since I've been having problems with my Epson scanner <g>
|
| Would they do that w/o telling you? hmmmmm
|
| I will run the disk tho
|

Oh yeah. They probably are trying to keep the file size down for people on
dial-up. Most of the software for my scanner is not available anywhere but
the original CD. But SP2 seems to have screwed up the nice little
photocopier utility. I only use it once or twice a month, but it was a
really nice little function.

>Maybe you plugged the printer in BEFORE you ran the setup disk, huh? If so,
>that was not a good move. USB on Win9x nearly always requires the drivers to
>be loaded in the computer before hooking up the new peripheral.

I have the disk, but downloaded the latest from Epson. I did not
connect the printer until the install program said to, and at that
point did not get recognition ("new hardware found")

>And Windows Update isn't going to have printer drivers for your printer. You
>need to get them from www.epson.com.

I've done that, and that's the file I used to attempt installation.

> Your USB drivers should be with the
>discs that came with the computer, or on the hard drive.

They are. They just don't seem to work.

>(Have you tried any other USB devices on your computer, and do they work? )

If I had one, I'd plug it in. Or, if I had another computer, I'd plug
in the printer to make sure the printer and cable were OK.

>You will probably need to 1) uninstall any and everything you have tried
>that relates to the usb printer and possibly even the usb ports themselves.
>2) boot in safe mode, go to device manager (right click My Computer, select
>properties, second tab on top) and check while in safe mode that nothing
>related to your printer/usb stuff is in there.

I saw nothing but the two drivers I mentioned:
1) openhci.sys, ntkern.vxd
2) USB hub, ntkern.vxd
both microsoft 4.10.1998

I'm thinking there might be driver corruption, even though I did
everything according to instructions from the install program. I'm
thinking I should delete both USB drivers.

Question: Will Windows reinstall them from the CAB files? I don't
have a Win 98 disc, as none came with the computer.

Thanks again.

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>
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I may go that routel

>How do you like your trout?

I't OK.

>If you don't have the software for the printer, you might go here and get
>the drivers. If this doesn't help you might try google.
>
>http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/s...eBVCookie=yes&
>oid=14414&prodoid=22708393&infoType=Downloads&pla tform=Windows
>
I got the Epson software, just can't get the computer to talk to the
USB port. I't weird that when I try the 'install new printer"wizard,
it let's me select the Epson 925 from a list, but where you select the
port, it doesn't show an USB port available.

As stated above, I might try deleting the USB driver and Root Hub and
let Windows redo them. Then, run the install software, and connect
the printer when it says to.

That work?

Thx, Geno