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"Klaatu" <> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:10:33 GMT, WormWood posted to
alt.comp.freeware:
|
| > "KHaled" <> wrote in message
| > news:Xns958158E215FDFkhaledlocalhost@130.133.1.4.. .
| > |
| > | When a "hole" is discovered in IE, does that also affect clones
| > | such as maxthon, avante, etc. ?
| >
| > No.
|
| Huh?!? I believe the answer is that, in many if not most cases, yes.
|

I haven't used clones such as maxthon, avante nor others, if exist.
IIRC, the PC was once, maybe still is, referred to as an IBM clone. So,
yeah, if they use a MS OS, the upgrade would apply to them as well. When
I posted my reply I may have been thinking of Linux, MAC, and the likes
of that.


| But a better answer could be: it depends.

Depends? That's a nursing home loo, innit?

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:22:20 -0400, WormWood <>
wrote in <news:MuidnSiOH_pgY_DcRVn->:

> "Klaatu" <> wrote in message
> news:Xns9581586EEFB2Fklaatunospaminvalid@127.0.0.1 ...
>| On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:10:33 GMT, WormWood posted to
> alt.comp.freeware:
>|
>|> "KHaled" <> wrote in message
>|> news:Xns958158E215FDFkhaledlocalhost@130.133.1.4.. .
>|> |
>|> | When a "hole" is discovered in IE, does that also affect clones
>|> | such as maxthon, avante, etc. ?
>|>
>|> No.
>|
>| Huh?!? I believe the answer is that, in many if not most cases, yes.
>|
>
> I haven't used clones such as maxthon, avante nor others, if exist.
> IIRC, the PC was once, maybe still is, referred to as an IBM clone. So,
> yeah, if they use a MS OS, the upgrade would apply to them as well. When
> I posted my reply I may have been thinking of Linux, MAC, and the likes
> of that.
>
>| But a better answer could be: it depends.
>
> Depends? That's a nursing home loo, innit?

"innit" as in "Innit, not attit", I suppose

--
Regards,
Nicolaas.


- Adults are obsolete children.

Fuzzy Logic <> wrote in message news:<Xns958099068FEFBbobarcabca@198.161.157.145>. ..
> "Bruce the Shark" <> wrote in
> news:416c3dd7$:
>
> > From http://tinyurl.com/4p3ao (ie.
> > http://news.com.com/Microsoft+warns+...flaws/2100-100
> > 2_3-5406550.html?tag=nefd.top):
> >
> > "Microsoft published 10 software security advisories on Tuesday, warning
> > Windows users and corporate administrators of 22 new flaws that affect
> > the company's products. The advisories, and patches published with the
> > bulletins, range from an 'important' flaw affecting only Microsoft
> > Windows NT Server to a collection of eight security holes, including
> > three rated 'critical,' that leave Internet Explorer open to attack."
> >
> > Three more critical IE security holes? Try Firefox instead:
> >
> > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
>
> So I should change to Firefox because 3 holes in IE have been plugged? I
> guess the next time a critical flaw in Firefox is found and fixed I should
> suggest you switch to IE!
>
> There will continue to be new flaws discovered in IE as well as Firefox.
> It's important to use a well supported browser that YOU like and lock it
> down and keep it patched. Switching will not suddenly make you invincible on
> the net. Security is a process, not a particular piece of software. I
> particularily like this quote:

You are right to use something you like. But some things to consider:

1. There are many software products that don't have continual problems

2. IE is always a "sloppy third" when it comes to useful features

3. Why use a product that installs hidden directories, files, and
keeps files present when you have removed the program
MS has some control issues

> "Yet simply switching is not an effective security solution. Only if you use
> the proper security tools and remain vigilant about staying up to date and
> cautious about what you do online should you start to feel some sense of
> comfort."

Switching as part of learning what works best is pretty good wisdom. I
have been using Fprot for years but decided to try another product. I
found a trojan with it.

(Calm n Collected) wrote in
news: m:

> Fuzzy Logic <> wrote in message
> news:<Xns958099068FEFBbobarcabca@198.161.157.145>. ..
>> "Bruce the Shark" <> wrote in
>> news:416c3dd7$:
>>
>> > From http://tinyurl.com/4p3ao (ie.
>> >
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+warns+...ty+flaws/2100-
>> > 100 2_3-5406550.html?tag=nefd.top):
>> >
>> > "Microsoft published 10 software security advisories on Tuesday,
>> > warning Windows users and corporate administrators of 22 new flaws
>> > that affect the company's products. The advisories, and patches
>> > published with the bulletins, range from an 'important' flaw
>> > affecting only Microsoft Windows NT Server to a collection of eight
>> > security holes, including three rated 'critical,' that leave Internet
>> > Explorer open to attack."
>> >
>> > Three more critical IE security holes? Try Firefox instead:
>> >
>> > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
>>
>> So I should change to Firefox because 3 holes in IE have been plugged?
>> I guess the next time a critical flaw in Firefox is found and fixed I
>> should suggest you switch to IE!
>>
>> There will continue to be new flaws discovered in IE as well as
>> Firefox. It's important to use a well supported browser that YOU like
>> and lock it down and keep it patched. Switching will not suddenly make
>> you invincible on the net. Security is a process, not a particular
>> piece of software. I particularily like this quote:
>
> You are right to use something you like. But some things to consider:
>
> 1. There are many software products that don't have continual problems

I have had very little in the way of problems with IE. I used to hate IE
but has improved over the years.

> 2. IE is always a "sloppy third" when it comes to useful features

That's why I use Avant (an IE shell). Tabbed browsing, pop-up stopper, ad-
blocker, highly customizable.

> 3. Why use a product that installs hidden directories, files, and
> keeps files present when you have removed the program
> MS has some control issues

Microsoft is not the only company guilty of installing hidden
files/directories. I know where/what they are and have tools to properly
remove/clean them. Regardless of which browser you use I think it's
important to know all it's settings and how they work as well as where
it's data is kept.

>> "Yet simply switching is not an effective security solution. Only if
>> you use the proper security tools and remain vigilant about staying up
>> to date and cautious about what you do online should you start to feel
>> some sense of comfort."
>
> Switching as part of learning what works best is pretty good wisdom. I
> have been using Fprot for years but decided to try another product. I
> found a trojan with it.

I do computer support and evaluate a lot of different software products as
part of my job. I only switch when I find something I think is worth the
switch. I used to use IE got fed up with it switched to Netscape and have
been using IE/Avant for the last few years.