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You dumbass **** you and see my top post idiot. A router is not a firewall
did you learn that from your mom?

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"chris" <> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:31:12 GMT and in article <47vWc.31716$9Y6.30461
> @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, pcbutts1 said...
> : Yes it does have a firewall. It is a router. The firewall is built in.
> :
> ****ing top posting idiot. **** off and die, clueless ****.
>
> --
> chris

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:46:43 GMT and in article <DlvWc.31727$9Y6.10499
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, pcbutts1 said...
: You dumbass **** you and see my top post idiot.

*plonk*

: A router is not a firewall did you learn that from your mom?

Seemingly yours didnt teach your basic grammar. Statements such as 'Yes
it does have a firewall. It is a router. The firewall is built in' prove
that ****wits like you shouldn't be allowed on the internet, let alone
usenet! Go back to AOL along with all the other clueless idiots.


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chris

If it is an all in one, (Modem, and router) you will not be able to use it.
ADSL, uses a different connection to NTL.

Ant.

"fitzy_bhoy" <> wrote in message
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> I currently have an ADSL modem/router. I am moving house and I am going to
> get NTL installed. I realise the modems are different but if I attach the
> NTL modem to my router, will the router part still work?? If not can
anyone
> tell me a good router for use with Cable BB as all I seem to find are ADSL
> ones.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>

"fitzy_bhoy" <> wrote in
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>
> "chris" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:38:08 +0100 and in article <412a71c6$0$20244
>> $>, fitzy_bhoy said...
>> : "chris" <> wrote in message
>> : news:...
>> : > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:57:57 +0100 and in article
>> : > <412a685b$0$20248 $>, fitzy_bhoy
>> : > said...
>> : > : I currently have an ADSL modem/router. I am moving house and I
>> : > : am
>> going
>> : > to
>> : > : get NTL installed. I realise the modems are different but if I
>> attach
>> : > the
>> : > : NTL modem to my router, will the router part still work??
>> : > :
>> : > No.
>> : >
>> : > I have used a Linksys BESFR 41 v2 for around 12 months on NTL
>> : > with
>> 100%
>> : > uptime. Others have reported different stories tho..
>> : >
>> : > --
>> : > chris
>> :
>> : Does this unit have an inbuilt firewall/gateway?
>> :
>> No. Firewall is in the form of NAT, which isn't a true firewall. If
>> you want a proper firewall feature can I suggest the model up
>>
>> --
>> chris
>
>
> Excuse my ignorance. But my router at the moment in running in
> PPPoa+NAT mode. If nat is not a firewall then why do firewall test
> sites tell me that I am completely protected. I realise that a £60
> router isn't going to protect me, but is NAT and maybe Zone alarm
> behind it enough for the home user
>

Yes, a NAT router with ZA is a wise choice. Most likely, your router for
typical home usage is not a true FW appliance and meets the specs in the
link for a NAT router that has some FW like features being called FW
appliance, like Linksys, D-link, Belkin, etc., etc.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp

If it were a true FW appliance, then the appliance would meet the specs
in the link below like a WatchGuard, CISCO, SnapGear, etc, etc.

http://www.firewall-software.com/fir...rewall_do.html

And they would cost a lot more too, even a low-end one.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/Results.aspx?
key=watchguard&platform=all&x=8&y=7

http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/Resul...o+firewall&x=6
&platform=all&y=11

Duane

"chris" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:57:57 +0100 and in article <412a685b$0$20248
> $>, fitzy_bhoy said...
> : I currently have an ADSL modem/router. I am moving house and I am going
to
> : get NTL installed. I realise the modems are different but if I attach
the
> : NTL modem to my router, will the router part still work??
> :
> No.
>
> I have used a Linksys BESFR 41 v2 for around 12 months on NTL with 100%
> uptime. Others have reported different stories tho..
>


Same here. Linksys BEFSR 41 for nearly 2 years with NTL. Never had a single
problem.

Mark Shaw wrote:

....
>>
>>I have used a Linksys BESFR 41 v2 for around 12 months on NTL with 100%
>>uptime. Others have reported different stories tho..
>>
>
>
>
> Same here. Linksys BEFSR 41 for nearly 2 years with NTL. Never had a single
> problem.


Same here: 4 years with BEFSR41 - even was able to replace the fuse.
- RM