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No Shit !
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      05-08-2004

I have a server that will lock up within 12 - 24 hrs after it has
started fresh. The USR resources will go overnight from some 70% to
nearly zero, resulting in a froozen / locked up system.

I have configured another server, but similar configuration on older
hardware with a slower processor, less memory RAM, and that one keeps
functioning perfectly, staying online for weeks at an end. Both have
more or less the same software/tasks running.

My question is: is there a software utility that will log the use of
resources by memory resident software, and so pinpoint me to the
source of all trouble?

Any suggestions are welcome !!

Thanks in advance for your reply.
 
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      05-08-2004

"No **** !" <> wrote in message
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> I have a server that will lock up within 12 - 24 hrs after it has
> started fresh. The USR resources will go overnight from some 70% to
> nearly zero, resulting in a froozen / locked up system.
>
> I have configured another server, but similar configuration on older
> hardware with a slower processor, less memory RAM, and that one keeps
> functioning perfectly, staying online for weeks at an end. Both have
> more or less the same software/tasks running.
>
> My question is: is there a software utility that will log the use of
> resources by memory resident software, and so pinpoint me to the
> source of all trouble?
>
> Any suggestions are welcome !!
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply.


98SE isnt designed to be on for that length of time, dont cheap out on
server operating systems.
Upgrade it to server 2000 or 2003, and yes it will run fine. I have 2003
running on a dual 233MMX system with 128Mb EDO and its fine for file
sharing, downloading and web serving.

You might want to run memtestx86 on it to see if theres a problem with the
physical ram.

hamman


 
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Ron Martell
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      05-08-2004
No **** ! <> wrote:

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>I have a server that will lock up within 12 - 24 hrs after it has
>started fresh. The USR resources will go overnight from some 70% to
>nearly zero, resulting in a froozen / locked up system.
>
>I have configured another server, but similar configuration on older
>hardware with a slower processor, less memory RAM, and that one keeps
>functioning perfectly, staying online for weeks at an end. Both have
>more or less the same software/tasks running.
>
>My question is: is there a software utility that will log the use of
>resources by memory resident software, and so pinpoint me to the
>source of all trouble?
>
>Any suggestions are welcome !!
>
>Thanks in advance for your reply.


First of all, System Resources has absolutely nothing to do with the
total RAM or how that total RAM is being used. Low System Resources
and Memory Leakage are two entirely different types of problems.

See http://www.onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#resources and also
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/resource.htm for information about System
Resources.

One of the best ways to improve the value of free System Resources is
to reduce the number of background "tools and toys" (a.k.a. crap and
corruption) that gets loaded when the computer starts up. Use Start -
Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab. Compare the list of items
that are loading at startup with the following checklist web sites to
see what can be safely dispensed with:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html - has trojan related
items listed

Note: Please ensure that you fully understand the purpose of a
startup item, how and why it was put into the startup, and the
consequences (if any) of removing it before you make any changes.
Some items are very important for the proper and safe functioning of
your computer, including at least one item that is listed twice.

Disabling an item by unchecking it in MSCONFIG should only be done for
testing purposes or as a "last resort" when no other way of getting
rid of the unwanted item can be found.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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      05-08-2004
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> I have a server that will lock up within 12 - 24 hrs after it has
> started fresh. The USR resources will go overnight from some 70% to


Use Novel or Linux for your servers. MS OS's are desktop OS's, not for
servers.




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Toolman Tim
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      05-08-2004

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
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> No **** ! wrote:
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> > I have a server that will lock up within 12 - 24 hrs after it has
> > started fresh. The USR resources will go overnight from some 70% to

>
> Use Novel or Linux for your servers. MS OS's are desktop OS's, not for
> servers.
>
>


That's telling 'em ;o)

Love that Novel Netware system of mine. And they've bought Suse Linux as
well. So pretty soon it will *all* be Linux ... heh heh heh ...


 
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      05-09-2004
Op Sat, 08 May 2004 19:39:15 GMT schreef Ron Martell
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Ron thanks for your reply (different from the immature replies of the
so called "experts" that preceded your post).

>One of the best ways to improve the value of free System Resources is
>to reduce the number of background "tools and toys" (a.k.a. crap and
>corruption) that gets loaded when the computer starts up. Use Start -
>Run - MSCONFIG and go to the Startup tab. Compare the list of items


I always use Startup Cop
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,2173,00.asp to cleanup the
programs loaded at boot. I have no yet tested with an empty startup
list : I will try that today.

>that are loading at startup with the following checklist web sites to
>see what can be safely dispensed with:
>
>http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
>http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm
>http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html - has trojan related
>items listed


System is monitored by SpywareBlaster, Spybot, Ad-Aware a.o.

I will run a Trend Micro online housecall
http://nl.trendmicro-europe.com/ente.../housecall.php
again to detect viri, to see if something has gone wrong in between.

Stil, the system is not different configured than other w98se servers
I installed.

That other platforms or newer releases of windows will do a better job
is well known, but normally the w98se servers I configured can stay
online for several weeks at an end, which is good enough for the
purpose.
 
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