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Larry Smith
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      11-20-2003
Hi,
First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one
concerning graphics, but anyway....

In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif
file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.

This always works very well for small to medium size images.
Typically I get good resolution if I've copied a block of cells 20 x
9, so 180 total cells.

Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg
file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have
access to always results in a squished, unnatural, and not very
readable image.

Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line
while others take up two.

Any help is appreciated.



Larry Smith

************************************************** ****
"I only wear my glasses for two things:
To drive my car and to find it."
Woody Allen
 
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Miggsee
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      11-20-2003
This newsgroup is appropriate for any topic.

Are you hand coding, or using a WYSIWYG editor?



"Larry Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
> question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one
> concerning graphics, but anyway....
>
> In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
> Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif
> file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.
>
> This always works very well for small to medium size images.
> Typically I get good resolution if I've copied a block of cells 20 x
> 9, so 180 total cells.
>
> Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
> entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg
> file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have
> access to always results in a squished, unnatural, and not very
> readable image.
>
> Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
> I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
> care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line
> while others take up two.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Larry Smith
>
> ************************************************** ****
> "I only wear my glasses for two things:
> To drive my car and to find it."
> Woody Allen



 
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      11-20-2003

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:

>Hi,
>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one


It is.

Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
URI as well.

>concerning graphics, but anyway....
>
>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif


It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
like a real table layout should be used for.

>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.


The URI is? The editor is?

<snip>
>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg


The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.

>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have


As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
width dimensions set smaller than the real size.

(For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)

<snip>

>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line


Apply - same for any table used for layout

<snip>

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Larry Smith
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:42:03 -0500, "Miggsee" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>This newsgroup is appropriate for any topic.
>
>Are you hand coding, or using a WYSIWYG editor?
>
>
>
>"Larry Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>> First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>> question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one
>> concerning graphics, but anyway....
>>
>> In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>> Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif
>> file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.
>>
>> This always works very well for small to medium size images.
>> Typically I get good resolution if I've copied a block of cells 20 x
>> 9, so 180 total cells.
>>
>> Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>> entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg
>> file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have
>> access to always results in a squished, unnatural, and not very
>> readable image.
>>
>> Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>> I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>> care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line
>> while others take up two.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Smith
>>
>> ************************************************** ****
>> "I only wear my glasses for two things:
>> To drive my car and to find it."
>> Woody Allen

>
>


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Larry Smith

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To drive my car and to find it."
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Larry Smith
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      11-20-2003
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
<fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:

>
>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one

>
>It is.
>
>Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
>URI as well.
>
>>concerning graphics, but anyway....
>>
>>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif

>
>It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
>like a real table layout should be used for.
>
>>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.

>
>The URI is? The editor is?
>
><snip>
>>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg

>
>The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
>correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
>
>>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have

>
>As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
>width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
>
> (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
>Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
>
><snip>
>
>>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line

>
>Apply - same for any table used for layout
>
><snip>
>
>Me


I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
now I've done so that you can see it:
http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm

As an example of a smaller table that looks much better and done with
the same technique:
http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/picks04.htm

Again, thanks for the feedback.




Larry Smith

************************************************** ****
"I only wear my glasses for two things:
To drive my car and to find it."
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Miggsee
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      11-20-2003
Instead of making *pictures* or screen shots of your tables, copy the tables
into html.

Many will disagree with me, but for your purposes, you might want to
investigate FrontPage. There, you could create a table, and copy and paste
the information.

FrontPage isn't the monster some purport it to be!

"Larry Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
> <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:
>
> >
> >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
> >>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one

> >
> >It is.
> >
> >Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
> >URI as well.
> >
> >>concerning graphics, but anyway....
> >>
> >>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
> >>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif

> >
> >It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
> >like a real table layout should be used for.
> >
> >>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.

> >
> >The URI is? The editor is?
> >
> ><snip>
> >>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
> >>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg

> >
> >The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
> >correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
> >
> >>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have

> >
> >As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
> >width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
> >
> > (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
> >Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
> >>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
> >>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line

> >
> >Apply - same for any table used for layout
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Me

>
> I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
> now I've done so that you can see it:
> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm
>
> As an example of a smaller table that looks much better and done with
> the same technique:
> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/picks04.htm
>
> Again, thanks for the feedback.
>
>
>
>
> Larry Smith
>
> ************************************************** ****
> "I only wear my glasses for two things:
> To drive my car and to find it."
> Woody Allen



 
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      11-20-2003
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:21:17 GMT, in
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Larry Smith scrawled:

>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
><fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:
>
>>
>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>>>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one

>>
>>It is.
>>
>>Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
>>URI as well.
>>
>>>concerning graphics, but anyway....
>>>
>>>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>>>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif

>>
>>It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
>>like a real table layout should be used for.
>>
>>>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.

>>
>>The URI is? The editor is?
>>
>><snip>
>>>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>>>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg

>>
>>The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
>>correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
>>
>>>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have

>>
>>As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
>>width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
>>
>> (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
>>Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>>>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>>>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line

>>
>>Apply - same for any table used for layout
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Me

>
>I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
>now I've done so that you can see it:
>http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm


It's being squished by the browser HTML because of
it's size. If you save the image and view it, it looks fine.
Don't specify an image size, and it displays correctly.

<img src="rost_cbl.gif" border="0" align="bottom" alt="">


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      11-20-2003

"Larry Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
> <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:
>
> >
> >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
> >>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one

> >
> >It is.
> >
> >Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
> >URI as well.
> >
> >>concerning graphics, but anyway....
> >>
> >>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
> >>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif

> >
> >It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
> >like a real table layout should be used for.
> >
> >>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.

> >
> >The URI is? The editor is?
> >
> ><snip>
> >>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
> >>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg

> >
> >The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
> >correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
> >
> >>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have

> >
> >As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
> >width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
> >
> > (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
> >Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
> >>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
> >>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line

> >
> >Apply - same for any table used for layout
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Me

>
> I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
> now I've done so that you can see it:
> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm
>
> As an example of a smaller table that looks much better and done with
> the same technique:
> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/picks04.htm
>
> Again, thanks for the feedback.
>
>
>
>
> Larry Smith
>
> ************************************************** ****
> "I only wear my glasses for two things:
> To drive my car and to find it."
> Woody Allen


Not sure what your technique was, but the image that looks good has its size
set a bit larger that actual. The one that looks bad has the height set in
the html as 1600, actual height 2471. just too much of a squeeze. The
picture looks fine set to actual dimensions.


 
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:04:54 -0500, "ImhoTech" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>
>"Larry Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
>> <fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hi,
>> >>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>> >>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one
>> >
>> >It is.
>> >
>> >Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
>> >URI as well.
>> >
>> >>concerning graphics, but anyway....
>> >>
>> >>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>> >>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif
>> >
>> >It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
>> >like a real table layout should be used for.
>> >
>> >>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.
>> >
>> >The URI is? The editor is?
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>> >>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg
>> >
>> >The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
>> >correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
>> >
>> >>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have
>> >
>> >As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
>> >width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
>> >
>> > (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
>> >Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>> >>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>> >>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line
>> >
>> >Apply - same for any table used for layout
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >Me

>>
>> I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
>> now I've done so that you can see it:
>> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm
>>
>> As an example of a smaller table that looks much better and done with
>> the same technique:
>> http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/picks04.htm
>>
>> Again, thanks for the feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Smith
>>
>> ************************************************** ****
>> "I only wear my glasses for two things:
>> To drive my car and to find it."
>> Woody Allen

>
>Not sure what your technique was, but the image that looks good has its size
>set a bit larger that actual. The one that looks bad has the height set in
>the html as 1600, actual height 2471. just too much of a squeeze. The
>picture looks fine set to actual dimensions.
>
>


I'm unaware of how to set it to "actual dimensions."



Larry Smith

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To drive my car and to find it."
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:41:52 +0000, °Mike°
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>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:21:17 GMT, in
> <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Larry Smith scrawled:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:19:31 GMT, why?
>><fgrirp*sgc@VAINY!Qznq.fpvragvfg.pbz> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:27:05 GMT, Larry Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>First, I don't know if this is the appropriate group for this
>>>>question. Perhaps it should be directed to an html NG or maybe one
>>>
>>>It is.
>>>
>>>Could be an idea to ask in an HTML group, but someone will ask for the
>>>URI as well.
>>>
>>>>concerning graphics, but anyway....
>>>>
>>>>In keeping up a webpage for a baseball league I often copy tables from
>>>>Excel 97 and then paste the image into IRFANVIEW. I save it as a gif
>>>
>>>It's not easier to simply make it text in a table. It sounds exactly
>>>like a real table layout should be used for.
>>>
>>>>file and use my web editor to insert that graphic.
>>>
>>>The URI is? The editor is?
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>>Recently I decided to try the same technique to publish rosters. This
>>>>entailed 20 x 40 cells. Whether I save this as a gif file or a jpg
>>>
>>>The widths for the table / cells are fixed / percentage, all add up
>>>correctly i.e. table fixed at width X and a graphic width X+Y in size.
>>>
>>>>file the result when viewed in IE or any of the other browsers I have
>>>
>>>As it sounds not to be an IE problem, Could be the HTML has height /
>>>width dimensions set smaller than the real size.
>>>
>>> (For IE it would be something like Tools / Options / Advanced /
>>>Multimedia / tick/untick Enable Automatic Image Resizing)
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>Any thoughts on a way to accomplish this?
>>>>I know I could use Excel to just save it as a webpage but I don't much
>>>>care for the look of those tables and some names come out on one line
>>>
>>>Apply - same for any table used for layout
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>Me

>>
>>I hadn't put it up on the web since its appearance wasn't great but
>>now I've done so that you can see it:
>>http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl_temp.htm

>
>It's being squished by the browser HTML because of
>it's size. If you save the image and view it, it looks fine.
>Don't specify an image size, and it displays correctly.
>
><img src="rost_cbl.gif" border="0" align="bottom" alt="">
>
>
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>http://uk.geocities.com/personel44/maintenance.html


Mike,
While I appreciate all the help and feedback that I've received today,
you're my hero.

I put in the line as you have it above and voila the page shows up
just as I wanted it to (in fact, even better).

I renamed it for our league members so it's now at:
http://www.hvinet.com/dr4sight/rostcbl.htm

Thanks again.
In my book you're all geniusses.



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