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Hi,

Last week I met below case:

I opened a PDF file, from which I highlighted a line of English text
and copied it to clipboard with the help of right mouse key. As I
used right mouse key to paste the text in opened notepad window, the
text was displayed as garbage. This is the first time I met such case
with text copied and pasted from PDF file opened in acrobat reader.

Was there any special thing set in the pdf file that caused this ?

Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
What created the PDF?

Chris.
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Chris Dahl - CTO, Solutions
ARTS PDF

http://www.artspdf.com/


(ComeMon!) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> Hi,
>
> Last week I met below case:
>
> I opened a PDF file, from which I highlighted a line of English text
> and copied it to clipboard with the help of right mouse key. As I
> used right mouse key to paste the text in opened notepad window, the
> text was displayed as garbage. This is the first time I met such case
> with text copied and pasted from PDF file opened in acrobat reader.
>
> Was there any special thing set in the pdf file that caused this ?
>
>

(Chris D) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
> allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
> What created the PDF?

Try this
http://faculty.ist.unomaha.edu/pdasg...sis/thesis.pdf

>
> Chris.
> ___________________________________
>
> Chris Dahl - CTO, Solutions
> ARTS PDF
>
> http://www.artspdf.com/
>
>
> (ComeMon!) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last week I met below case:
> >
> > I opened a PDF file, from which I highlighted a line of English text
> > and copied it to clipboard with the help of right mouse key. As I
> > used right mouse key to paste the text in opened notepad window, the
> > text was displayed as garbage. This is the first time I met such case
> > with text copied and pasted from PDF file opened in acrobat reader.
> >
> > Was there any special thing set in the pdf file that caused this ?
> >
> >

Aloha,

"ComeMon!" schrieb:
> > Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
> > allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
> > What created the PDF?
> Try this
> http://faculty.ist.unomaha.edu/pdasg...sis/thesis.pdf

Build by TeX via dvips, contains subsetted fonts and non-standard encoding
vector. There is nearly nothing you can do to change this behaviour.
With a low-level pdf-editor tool you could change both the font definition
and encoding vector. Or you extract the information about the encoding
vector and write a script (or use unix's tr) to translate the
copied string.

Wishing a happy day
LOBI

(ComeMon!) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> (Chris D) wrote in message news:<. com>...
> > Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
> > allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
> > What created the PDF?
>
> Try this
> http://faculty.ist.unomaha.edu/pdasg...sis/thesis.pdf
>

Looks like a typical case of someone forgetting the -Ppdf option to
dvips in the second stage of the conversion chain latex->dvi->ps->pdf.
As a result, the pdf file has Type 3 bitmapped fonts with a non-standard
encoding (this also explains why the fonts look fuzzy in acroread).

Luckily, there is a solution:

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=pkfix

You'll need to convert back to ps, fix the fonts with pkfix, then
convert back to pdf.

Sorry, the pkfix method I gave in my previous post doesn't seem
to work if you only have the PDF file. You need at least
the original PS file from which the PDF file was generated. At
least it didn't work for me when using any of pdf2ps (effectively
ghostscript), pdftops, or "Print to file" in acroread.

Andreas Lobinger <> wrote in message news:<>...
> "ComeMon!" schrieb:
> > > Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
> > > allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
> > > What created the PDF?
> > Try this
> > http://faculty.ist.unomaha.edu/pdasg...sis/thesis.pdf
>
> Build by TeX via dvips, contains subsetted fonts and non-standard encoding
> vector. There is nearly nothing you can do to change this behaviour.
> With a low-level pdf-editor tool you could change both the font definition
> and encoding vector. Or you extract the information about the encoding
> vector and write a script (or use unix's tr) to translate the
> copied string.

I found a PS version of the thesis on the website, so the pkfix trick
can be used after all. In case you don't have easy access to the
relevant tools, I've put a fixed PDF version for you at

http://www.astrosmo.unam.mx/~w.henne...esis_pkfix.pdf

You should now be able to cut-and-paste to your heart's content. I do
hope I'm not aiding and abetting plagiarism here

Andreas Lobinger <> wrote in message news:<>...
> Aloha,
>
> "ComeMon!" schrieb:
> > > Sounds like there wasn't enough font information stored in the PDF to
> > > allow extraction/pasting. Were the fonts embedded in the document?
> > > What created the PDF?
> > Try this
> > http://faculty.ist.unomaha.edu/pdasg...sis/thesis.pdf
>
> Build by TeX via dvips, contains subsetted fonts and non-standard encoding
> vector. There is nearly nothing you can do to change this behaviour.
> With a low-level pdf-editor tool you could change both the font definition
> and encoding vector. Or you extract the information about the encoding
> vector and write a script (or use unix's tr) to translate the
> copied string.

I want to know more about different encoding standards & format
definitions of pdf files. Any url can I go for further information
?

>
> Wishing a happy day
> LOBI

(ComeMon!) wrote:

>I want to know more about different encoding standards & format
>definitions of pdf files. Any url can I go for further information

The PDF Reference has it all.
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