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Andrew
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      10-16-2003
Just upgraded my sons PC .... new MOBO , AMD 1300 CPU
40 gig HD 256 RAM re installed Win 98 only problem is that on
booting gets to Windows 98 splash screen and then hangs for a minute
or so before moving on to desktop etc.
My daughters with more or less the same spec loads instantly and mine
with all my applications loading at start up doesn't take this long.
Any suggestions as to what causes this and what can be done to speed
things up.

Thanks for any help
 
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°Mike°
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      10-16-2003
Basic computer maintenance
http://uk.geocities.com/personel44/maintenance.html

Download and install Bootlog Examiner
http://www.blueorbsoft.com/ble/index.html

Boot the system up and hold the CTRL key. At the DOS
menu, choose 'Logged (bootlog.txt)'.

After bootup, run Bootlog Examiner to find where the
delays are.


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Andrew scrawled:

>Just upgraded my sons PC .... new MOBO , AMD 1300 CPU
>40 gig HD 256 RAM re installed Win 98 only problem is that on
>booting gets to Windows 98 splash screen and then hangs for a minute
>or so before moving on to desktop etc.
>My daughters with more or less the same spec loads instantly and mine
>with all my applications loading at start up doesn't take this long.
>Any suggestions as to what causes this and what can be done to speed
>things up.
>
>Thanks for any help


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Boomer
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      10-16-2003
°Mike° wrote:

> Basic computer maintenance
> http://uk.geocities.com/personel44/maintenance.html
>
> Download and install Bootlog Examiner
> http://www.blueorbsoft.com/ble/index.html
>
> Boot the system up and hold the CTRL key. At the DOS
> menu, choose 'Logged (bootlog.txt)'.
>
> After bootup, run Bootlog Examiner to find where the
> delays are.

[snip]

Thank you, Mike.

Great little program. I needed it for a friends computer I have
here.

Could you help me with these? Suggestions please.
Windows 98 Compaq Presario 5152

(Failures Only Shown)

System Time Proc. Time Process
----------- ---------- -------

15:58:58 0.56 *** LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
15:59:16 0.56 *** DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
15:59:53 0.56 *** INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD

Bootup Time (min.): 01:09
Total Delays: 7
Total Failures: 3
Total Entries: 636

(Delays Only Shown)

System Time Proc. Time Process
----------- ---------- -------

15:58:52 *** 1.11 Loading Device =
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CPQIDECD.SYS
15:58:54 *** 3.00 C:\CPQS\TOOLS\MINIFER2.EXE[000FCD62]
starting
15:59:17 *** 1.11 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN
15:59:27 *** 3.56 DEVICEINIT = VMOUSE
15:59:34 *** 3.33 Dynamic load device vtdi.386
15:59:39 *** 1.56 Dynamic load success vnbt.386
15:59:45 *** 1.78 Initing drvwq117.vxd

Bootup Time (min.): 01:09
Total Delays: 7
Total Failures: 3
Total Entries: 636



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Boomer
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      10-16-2003
Boomer wrote:

[snip]
> Could you help me with these? Suggestions please.
> Windows 98 Compaq Presario 5152


CPU: 350MHz AMD K6-2
L2 Cache: 512KB Pipeline Burst
Standard RAM: 128MB
Maximum RAM: 384MB
RAM Speed: 100MHz
Upgrade RAM Type: SyncDRAM DIMMs
Hard Drive: 8.0 GB(2) UltraDMA
Graphics: 2X AGP (133 MHz Accelerated Graphics Port)
ATI 3D Rage LT Pro (64-bit Hardware Accelerated 3D Graphics)
4 MB 100 MHz SyncGraphics video memory

What else might help?



>
> (Failures Only Shown)
>
> System Time Proc. Time Process
> ----------- ---------- -------
>
> 15:58:58 0.56 *** LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
> 15:59:16 0.56 *** DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
> 15:59:53 0.56 *** INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD
>


>
> (Delays Only Shown)
>
> System Time Proc. Time Process
> ----------- ---------- -------
>
> 15:58:52 *** 1.11 Loading Device =
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CPQIDECD.SYS
> 15:58:54 *** 3.00
> C:\CPQS\TOOLS\MINIFER2.EXE[000FCD62]
> starting
> 15:59:17 *** 1.11 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN
> 15:59:27 *** 3.56 DEVICEINIT = VMOUSE
> 15:59:34 *** 3.33 Dynamic load device vtdi.386
> 15:59:39 *** 1.56 Dynamic load success vnbt.386
> 15:59:45 *** 1.78 Initing drvwq117.vxd
>


 
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°Mike°
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      10-16-2003
On 16 Oct 2003 21:00:26 GMT, in
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Boomer scrawled:

>°Mike° wrote:
>
>> Basic computer maintenance
>> http://uk.geocities.com/personel44/maintenance.html
>>
>> Download and install Bootlog Examiner
>> http://www.blueorbsoft.com/ble/index.html
>>
>> Boot the system up and hold the CTRL key. At the DOS
>> menu, choose 'Logged (bootlog.txt)'.
>>
>> After bootup, run Bootlog Examiner to find where the
>> delays are.

>[snip]
>
>Thank you, Mike.


You're welcome.

>Great little program. I needed it for a friends computer I have
>here.
>
>Could you help me with these? Suggestions please.
>Windows 98 Compaq Presario 5152
>
>(Failures Only Shown)
>
> System Time Proc. Time Process
> ----------- ---------- -------
>
> 15:58:58 0.56 *** LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
> 15:59:16 0.56 *** DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
> 15:59:53 0.56 *** INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD


These are 'normal failures' in Windows 98.

Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt File
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=127970

<snip>

>(Delays Only Shown)
>
> System Time Proc. Time Process
> ----------- ---------- -------
>
> 15:58:52 *** 1.11 Loading Device =
>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CPQIDECD.SYS


CD-ROM driver. Check if this is being loaded from
config.sys and autoexec.bat - it shouldn't need to
be.

> 15:58:54 *** 3.00 C:\CPQS\TOOLS\MINIFER2.EXE[000FCD62]
>starting


From what I could find out, this seem to be loaded from
autoexec.bat, and is something to do with Compaq Service
Connection Install. I don't know how important it is.

> 15:59:17 *** 1.11 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN


This is only a slight delay, but you could read the following - though
I don't think it's a problem.

How To Fix the NTKERN.VXD Device Loader Bug
http://www.donath.org/Rants/MSTechHorror/

> 15:59:27 *** 3.56 DEVICEINIT = VMOUSE


This (mouse driver) delay *could* be related to ntkern, if it's
a USB mouse.

> 15:59:34 *** 3.33 Dynamic load device vtdi.386
> 15:59:39 *** 1.56 Dynamic load success vnbt.386


Not sure what the above two are, but .386 device drivers are
old 16 bit drivers.

> 15:59:45 *** 1.78 Initing drvwq117.vxd


Seems to be a Seagate driver.

The good news is that nothing is actually failing, but the
bad news is I don't know exactly what is causing the
delays. It may just be down to the peculiarities of that
particular system.

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Boomer
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      10-16-2003
°Mike° wrote:

> On 16 Oct 2003 21:00:26 GMT, in
> Boomer scrawled:
>
>>°Mike° wrote:

[snip]
>>> Download and install Bootlog Examiner
>>> http://www.blueorbsoft.com/ble/index.html

[snip]
>>(Failures Only Shown)
>>
>> System Time Proc. Time Process
>> ----------- ---------- -------
>>
>> 15:58:58 0.56 *** LoadFailed = ndis2sup.vxd
>> 15:59:16 0.56 *** DEVICEINITFAILED = MTRR
>> 15:59:53 0.56 *** INITCOMPLETEFAILED = SDVXD

>
> These are 'normal failures' in Windows 98.
>
> Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt File
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=127970
>
> <snip>
>
>>(Delays Only Shown)
>>
>> System Time Proc. Time Process
>> ----------- ---------- -------
>>
>> 15:58:52 *** 1.11 Loading Device =
>>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CPQIDECD.SYS

>
> CD-ROM driver. Check if this is being loaded from
> config.sys and autoexec.bat - it shouldn't need to
> be.
>
>> 15:58:54 *** 3.00
>> C:\CPQS\TOOLS\MINIFER2.EXE[000FCD62]
>>starting

>
> From what I could find out, this seem to be loaded from
> autoexec.bat, and is something to do with Compaq Service
> Connection Install. I don't know how important it is.
>
>> 15:59:17 *** 1.11 DEVICEINIT = NTKERN

>
> This is only a slight delay, but you could read the following -
> though I don't think it's a problem.
>
> How To Fix the NTKERN.VXD Device Loader Bug
> http://www.donath.org/Rants/MSTechHorror/
>
>> 15:59:27 *** 3.56 DEVICEINIT = VMOUSE

>
> This (mouse driver) delay *could* be related to ntkern, if it's
> a USB mouse.
>
>> 15:59:34 *** 3.33 Dynamic load device vtdi.386
>> 15:59:39 *** 1.56 Dynamic load success vnbt.386

>
> Not sure what the above two are, but .386 device drivers are
> old 16 bit drivers.
>
>> 15:59:45 *** 1.78 Initing drvwq117.vxd

>
> Seems to be a Seagate driver.
>
> The good news is that nothing is actually failing, but the
> bad news is I don't know exactly what is causing the
> delays. It may just be down to the peculiarities of that
> particular system.
>
> <snip>
>


Much thanks!! I'll check out the links you gave.
I was going to dig into all this tomorrow but since you made mention
of that nifty freeware... I went to work early.



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°Mike°
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      10-16-2003
On 16 Oct 2003 21:48:37 GMT, in
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Boomer scrawled:

<snip>

>Much thanks!! I'll check out the links you gave.
>I was going to dig into all this tomorrow but since you made mention
>of that nifty freeware... I went to work early.
>
>


You're welcome, and good luck.

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Gary G. Taylor
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      10-17-2003
Andrew wrote:

> Just upgraded my sons PC .... new MOBO , AMD 1300 CPU
> 40 gig HD 256 RAM re installed Win 98 only problem is that on
> booting gets to Windows 98 splash screen and then hangs for a minute
> or so before moving on to desktop etc.
> My daughters with more or less the same spec loads instantly and mine
> with all my applications loading at start up doesn't take this long.
> Any suggestions as to what causes this and what can be done to speed
> things up.
>
> Thanks for any help


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