Bryan said:
> "Brian H¹©" <> wrote in message
> news:llihb.9040$
>> Bryan said:
>>
>>> "Brian H¹©" <> wrote in message
>>> news:gKghb.8936$
>>>> SgtMinor said:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian H¹©" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SgtMinor said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Serendipity wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A few moons ago I asked if anyone could point me in the
>>>>>>>> direction of a source (in the UK) that could provide a little
>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>> for twist tying the tops of black plastic refuse bags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the answers were alternative ideas of solving
>>>>>>>> the problem, but that wasn't what I was looking for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The device is similar in appearance to the old style
>>>>>>>> pump screwdriver, but the rotation was exactly the
>>>>>>>> opposite in that thetwisting action turned in an anti-clockwise
>>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was given an address, but upon following it up, I found
>>>>>>>> that it was a very professional "Packaging" company, helpful
>>>>>>>> as could be, but expensive. The device, and the 'twist' wires
>>>>>>>> which I had bought from an old fashioned Ironmonger a few
>>>>>>>> years ago had jumped in price from - if memory serves me
>>>>>>>> correctly - from under £3.00 to something approaching £40.00
>>>>>>>> which is beyond my means.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the question is, does anyone know of one of these
>>>>>>>> devices at a more reasonable - to me - price?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your advice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To add to the previous responses, these ties and twisting tools
>>>>>>> are used in the construction industry for tying rebar prior to
>>>>>>> cement pouring.
>>>>>>> Take a look here for ties and twisters:
>>>>>>> http://www.icfaccessories.com/icf_to...wire_tools.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 'pig tail' tool has a handle that turns around the shaft so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> with a circular motion of your hand you twist the tie. The
>>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the 'hand tying tool' is pulled/pushed up and down over a
>>>>>>> spiralled shaft, causing the shaft to spin and twist the tie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'll need the double loop wire ties for these tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just grab the rubbish bags and throw them straight in the
>>>>>> dustbin. Doesn't cost me a penny to make my rubbish bags look
>>>>>> pretty for the dustmen, not that they care.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dang, Brian, I had to go to the English to American language
>>>>> dictionary
>>>>> to understand this. Let's see now, rubbish is trash, a dustbin is
>>>>> a garbage can, and dustmen are waste disposal technicians. And
>>>>> while researching occupational terms, I also noted that what we
>>>>> call a vice-president is a senior clerk in Britain.
>>>>
>>>> Good job I didn't talk about lemon and lime zones 
>>>
>>> The geyzers in the cart come round our drum at the crack, and
>>> helpful? I should cocoa! All you gotta do is butcher the bleeders
>>> wrongly and yer bins a non-emptier for a fortnight!
>>>
>>> (spanner - works)
>>> lol
>>
>> I'm sorry, you missed me, am I too late?
>> Nah, jump up on the cart.
>>
>> Where's me tigers 'ead?
>> (4 foot from it's tail)
>>
>> 
>
> Ah, Lonnie my lad!
>
You know, you could get yer skin 'n' blister or trouble 'n' strife to invite
them in for Rosie Lee at the Cain and Able, and they will be emptying yer bins
every day
Make sure there is a no entry sign on the apples and pears though