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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:43:31 -0500 wrote:

> >On the other hand, I've got Pocomail PE which lets me easily use my data on
> >different computers, so that's not an issue either. Or at least it won't be if I
> >go mobile again.
>
> Hey John.... what's is this Pocomail PE?
>
> And why is it better than other email apps?

"PocoMail Portable Edition (PocoMail PE for short) allows you to have the full
power of PocoMail at your disposal wherever you go. Imagine having access to
your email at home and at the office at all times, while keeping it private at
the same time. This is the new concept introduced by PocoMail PE.
Do away with limited space, security and features of webmail and use the only
desktop client that fits in your pocket."

http://www.pocomailpe.com/

It's a nice little app, I'm still working out some issues and I need to ask for
some minor feature changes. I'd say the best things about it are:

- Fairly easy to use
- Simple to disable images in the preview pane -- you can see the HTML without
triggering spam address confirmation that way.
- Will do threading, which I really like for email lists.
- Includes scripting and some fairly nice filtering stuff.

I'm having some trouble with attachments, though. Not sure what's going wrong
there. OTOH I've been busy with other stuff so I haven't tried getting support.

I've been able to import and export messages and address books pretty easily, so
migrating isn't much of a problem. I've had problems importing mail from Eudora,
but going from OE is dead simple.

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John Seeliger wrote:

>> My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
>> I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.
>
> Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't
> offer phone support for their free services, unfortunately.

I signed up for a free mail account at Gawab.com because it lets you
delete mail from the server (instead of sending it to the Trash like
Yahoo does) and voila, the spam is gone! Unfortunately this means a
change of e-mail address, but what else can you do? At least you
won't suffer this in future, and Gawab.com lets you access your mail
via POP (ie. with Outlook, Eudora, etc), whereas Yahoo makes you pay
for a POP service (in the USA anyway).

>"PocoMail Portable Edition (PocoMail PE for short) allows you to have the full
>power of PocoMail at your disposal wherever you go. Imagine having access to
>your email at home and at the office at all times, while keeping it private at
>the same time. This is the new concept introduced by PocoMail PE.
>Do away with limited space, security and features of webmail and use the only
>desktop client that fits in your pocket."
>
>http://www.pocomailpe.com/

Interesting!

I will check it out but in the meantime.... how is it
"portable"?

Do you carry it on a floppy or USB key? Is that what
they mean abt it being portable and easy to access
email form either home or work? Or is there some other
method of doing that they use?

Also..... I notice you use Agent for news, right?

So Im taking it that you use SEPARATE apps for email
and news? Use Agent for news and Poco PE for mail?

If yes..... do you find the "separating" of functions
into two apps like that to be the best way to go
overall?

Im a LONG time user of Agent..... but have always used
it for BOTH news and mail. Now Im seriously
considering using a sep app for email only.....and use
Agent for news only

Good idea in your opinion?

> In Group|Properties|Post you can configure a different email address
>for each group that you post to.

Understood...... but I have 5 instances of
Agent.....and keeping track of all that is a nightmare

Hence the idea to maybe use a separate app all together
for email at least

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:38:03 -0500, you [ ] wrote...

> Do YOU have separate apps for email and news everyone?

Yes

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morris63101 wrote:


> Do YOU have separate apps for email and news everyone?

Yes!

Xnews for a news reader.

And you can use any newer version of Netscape or Mozilla for browsing
and e-mail.

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:09:16 -0500 wrote:

> >"PocoMail Portable Edition (PocoMail PE for short) allows you to have the full
> >power of PocoMail at your disposal wherever you go. Imagine having access to
> >your email at home and at the office at all times, while keeping it private at
> >the same time. This is the new concept introduced by PocoMail PE.
> >Do away with limited space, security and features of webmail and use the only
> >desktop client that fits in your pocket."
> >
> >http://www.pocomailpe.com/
>
> Interesting!
>
> I will check it out but in the meantime.... how is it
> "portable"?
>
> Do you carry it on a floppy or USB key? Is that what
> they mean abt it being portable and easy to access
> email form either home or work? Or is there some other
> method of doing that they use?

Yes. Check out the web site, particularly this page:
http://www.pocomailpe.com/media.html

I was using a Zip disk for a while. ATM I'm using it locally only, but I bought
PE so I had the option of going mobile again.
>
> Also..... I notice you use Agent for news, right?
>
> So Im taking it that you use SEPARATE apps for email
> and news? Use Agent for news and Poco PE for mail?

It starts to get a little complex when you ask what i'm using for what.

Mostly I'm using Eudora as my main email program. It's a bit old and creaky
(4.something) but the later versions don't really seem to have any extra
features that I feel are worth paying for. Especially not on a budget.

I'm using Agent for newsreading. I used to use it as my main email proggy, too,
but I've got more email addresses now than a stray dog has fleas. Agent 1.x
doesn't handle multiple addresses cleanly. I'm hoping 2.x will (it's supposed
to). Agent 1.x doesn't render HTML (so is totally immune to HTML stuff), is
great at threading email lists, and is pretty easy to use, but I need the
multiple accounts. So right now I'm just using it for newsgroups only, and just
my newsgroup email address.

In my search for the "perfect" Windows email app I encountered Pocomail. It
seemed the best combination of features, given that "threading" was a
requirement (otherwise I could just stick with Eudora, eh?) So I'm using
Pocomail for my email lists. On a separate email account, of course.

Actually, I can use a separate Agent configuration to do that. Running two
copies of Agent is no more difficult than running one Agent and one Pocomail. If
Pocomail had been just a bit better I'd have bought it and used it to replace
Eudora altogether, but being on a budget, I decided not to.

However, I needed something for my daughter that wasn't OE but was just as easy
to use. Eudora and Agent didn't seem to fill the bill, so I set her up to try
Pocomail, and she liked it, so I bought it. Since I bought it anyway, I starting
using it myself.


There, aren't you sorry you asked?

(BTW: to export email from Agent to Pocomail isn't difficult. Takes a few steps,
though.)

>
> If yes..... do you find the "separating" of functions
> into two apps like that to be the best way to go
> overall?

I'd have to say it's ENTIRELY up to your needs and how crazy you want to get.
This just sort of evolved over several years. However, if you need multiple
addresses, and need to do newsgroups, and you're using Agent as your newsreader,
since Agent can't (yet) do multiple email addresses without playing around (have
to run separate copies with different configuration files, one per address), I'd
say you'd want a separate email app for your non-newsgroup email. That is, of
course, very much my own humble opinion, but to me it just makes sense.

My wife is still using Agent for everything, but ATM she only has one email
address. She's getting spam, of course. For now she's tolerating it, and we're
running her nonken.net email through a spare email box on our ISP, which has
Brightmail, and I've added those SWEN/GIBE filters that I've been pushing here
to nonken.net , so for now I guess it's tolerable. Once Agent 2.x comes out I
expect we'll be expanding her horizons. Not to mention her number of email
boxes.

> Im a LONG time user of Agent..... but have always used
> it for BOTH news and mail. Now Im seriously
> considering using a sep app for email only.....and use
> Agent for news only
>
> Good idea in your opinion?

I'm using it for both, but like I said, I'm using Agent only for my throw-away
spam-catcher newsgroup email account. I find it convenient to have them together
in a single context. The only problem with that is that I can't use a munged
domain address in my configuration if I want to also send email; the way
everything interacts, it doesn't authenticate. So I have to use my real address
or keep changing it back and forth in the configuration, a real pain. So I use a
throw-away address and don't worry about it; since I own the domain and control
the host, I can make as many email addresses as I want.

Anyway, you have to use what works for you, but maybe that'll give you food for
thought.

Excelsior!

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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:12:24 -0400 Munger Joe <> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:38:03 -0500, wrote:
>
> >You see I use Agent for BOTH news and email..... and if
> >you use Agent you'd know that it not a simple matter to
> >have one email for news posting and another for email
>
> In Group|Properties|Post you can configure a different email address
> for each group that you post to.
>

By God, so you can. You need to override the From field. I never noticed that.

Thanks for the tip!

(However, receiving both in Agent still requires separate configurations. Unless
one address forwards to the other...)

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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:13:56 -0500, wrote:

>> In Group|Properties|Post you can configure a different email address
>>for each group that you post to.
>
>Understood...... but I have 5 instances of
>Agent.....and keeping track of all that is a nightmare

How so? Do you use that many instances to make up for the fact that
Agent only supports one email account or because it only supports one
news server or because it only supports one connection per instance?
Any one of those could be a deal-breaker, I'm just curious.
In Options|User and System Profile|System you can configure the Title
Bar to say anything you want, which makes it easy to see which instance
is what.
The one email address per instance would be a deal-breaker for me
now, but when I first tried Agent that wasn't a factor. I still didn't
use Agent for email but I don't remember exactly why I didn't like it.
It wasn't because having to use multiple instances was a big deal; I
continued to use multiple instances (multiple installations, actually)
of Eudora to handle two email addresses.

Joe

"Paul" <> wrote in message
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> John Seeliger wrote:
>
> >> My box is getting clogged up too!! I have exactly the same problem.
> >> I asked Yahoo for help and they just send back generic form letters.
> >
> > Yep. I tried calling them and the recorded message said they don't
> > offer phone support for their free services, unfortunately.
>
> I signed up for a free mail account at Gawab.com because it lets you
> delete mail from the server (instead of sending it to the Trash like
> Yahoo does) and voila, the spam is gone! Unfortunately this means a
> change of e-mail address, but what else can you do? At least you
> won't suffer this in future, and Gawab.com lets you access your mail
> via POP (ie. with Outlook, Eudora, etc), whereas Yahoo makes you pay
> for a POP service (in the USA anyway).

What I have done is get a hotpop account and also, I am considering getting
a domain from doteasy.com for primarily email. The problem is I am not
ready to do away with the Yahoo! account. I would not be able to easily
remember what services I might have signed up for using Yahoo! and might
need to someday retrieve my password for.

The doteasy.com domains are only $25/year and they host your website (banner
free) with 20 MB, 1 GB bandwidth, 10 email addresses (pop3 and also have
forwarding) and autoresponders.