font face(s)

03-30-2006

The following works as expected...
<html>

some text ...
more text ...
any text ...
</html>

face=helvetica works as expected
face=courier works as expected

A search of my entire hard drive does not find
arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
is Courier.afm.

Can somebody help me understand this?
Thanks,
Charles

03-30-2006

charles cashion wrote:

> face=helvetica works as expected
> face=courier works as expected
>
> A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> is Courier.afm.
>
> Can somebody help me understand this?

Font names generally do not relate directly to the filename of the file they
are stored in.

(And the element was deprecated in favour of CSS about a decade ago)

--
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Home is where the ~/.bashrc is

03-30-2006

With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:

> The following works as expected...
> <html>
> 
> some text ...
> more text ...
> any text ...
> </html>
>
> face=helvetica works as expected
> face=courier works as expected
>
> A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> is Courier.afm.
>
> Can somebody help me understand this?

Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

03-30-2006

charles cashion wrote:

> A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> is Courier.afm.
>
> Can somebody help me understand this?

The mappings of typefaces names onto actual fonts is an arcane process
that's not understandable by mere mortals, like web designers.

There are three levels of mapping

- "serif", "sans-serif" and "monospace" are about all you can
practically request on the web. You don't know what the users actually
have installed and the browser just maps it for you. This isn't
flexible, but it works. You can't (practically) achieve much more than
this on the public web. If you assume "Most people run Windows, most
recent Windows ships with Comic Sans" then you can do better - but
still not usefully (the commonplace fonts that aren't already the
serif/sans defaults aren't particularly attractive)

- For copyright and trademark reasons, it's possible to make a
typeface called "Swiss" but not one called "Helvetica" - even though
"Swiss" might be an indistinguishable copy of it. So real-world
computer desktops and printers already understand how to map these
various names around (there are embedded lists of close synonyms),
because that's a significant part of making any sort of installable
font system work.

- There are "font metrics", describing a typeface as hard numbers in
terms of its quantified appearance. "Similar" fonts can now be
identifed automatically. No-one outside the ivory towers of Gutenberg
really understands this.

03-30-2006

"Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
news:...
> With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
>
> > The following works as expected...
> > <html>
> > 
> > some text ...
> > more text ...
> > any text ...
> > </html>
> >
> > face=helvetica works as expected
> > face=courier works as expected
> >
> > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> > is Courier.afm.
> >
> > Can somebody help me understand this?
>
> Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
>

If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?

--
Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

03-30-2006

In article <dhXWf.158337$>,
"Matt Clara" <> wrote:

> "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
> >

> > > face=helvetica works as expected
> > > face=courier works as expected
> > >
> > > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > > arial or
> > >
> > > Can somebody help me understand this?
> >
> > Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
> >
>
> If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?

Ah, you see, Matt, it is like this: because this is usenet and
free and you got a really good and informative reply by Andy
Dingley, there needs to be a balance. You need to read
Aristotle's doctrine about the mean, the appropriate balance for
everything. Boji keeps a watchful eye on these things and
responds accordingly. If you are not getting help, he will give
astounding help, with incredible clarity, if you are getting too
much help, he will try to temper it. He is very very good.
Appreciate him before his coming ... er meeting ... with Officer
Bud White.

--
dorayme

03-30-2006

With neither quill nor qualm, Matt Clara quothed:

> "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
> >
> > > The following works as expected...
> > > <html>
> > > 
> > > some text ...
> > > more text ...
> > > any text ...
> > > </html>
> > >
> > > face=helvetica works as expected
> > > face=courier works as expected
> > >
> > > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > > arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> > > is Courier.afm.
> > >
> > > Can somebody help me understand this?
> >
> > Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
> >
>
> If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?

You didn't find that helpful? Perhaps you didn't think enough.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

03-30-2006

With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias
<http:/www.neredbojias.com/fliam.html> quothed:

> With neither quill nor qualm, Matt Clara quothed:
>
> > "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
> > >
> > > > The following works as expected...
> > > > <html>
> > > > 
> > > > some text ...
> > > > more text ...
> > > > any text ...
> > > > </html>
> > > >
> > > > face=helvetica works as expected
> > > > face=courier works as expected
> > > >
> > > > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > > > arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> > > > is Courier.afm.
> > > >
> > > > Can somebody help me understand this?
> > >
> > > Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
> > >
> >
> > If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?
>
> You didn't find that helpful? Perhaps you didn't think enough.

I mean clearly enough.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

03-30-2006

With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias quothed:

> With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias
> <http:/www.neredbojias.com/fliam.html> quothed:
>
> > With neither quill nor qualm, Matt Clara quothed:
> >
> > > "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
> > > >
> > > > > The following works as expected...
> > > > > <html>
> > > > > 
> > > > > some text ...
> > > > > more text ...
> > > > > any text ...
> > > > > </html>
> > > > >
> > > > > face=helvetica works as expected
> > > > > face=courier works as expected
> > > > >
> > > > > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > > > > arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> > > > > is Courier.afm.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can somebody help me understand this?
> > > >
> > > > Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?
> >
> > You didn't find that helpful? Perhaps you didn't think enough.
>
> I mean clearly enough.

It was meant to be helpful.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

03-30-2006

With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias quothed:

> With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias quothed:
>
> > With neither quill nor qualm, Neredbojias
> > <http:/www.neredbojias.com/fliam.html> quothed:
> >
> > > With neither quill nor qualm, Matt Clara quothed:
> > >
> > > > "Neredbojias" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:...
> > > > > With neither quill nor qualm, charles cashion quothed:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The following works as expected...
> > > > > > <html>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > some text ...
> > > > > > more text ...
> > > > > > any text ...
> > > > > > </html>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > face=helvetica works as expected
> > > > > > face=courier works as expected
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A search of my entire hard drive does not find
> > > > > > arial or helvetica or courier. the closest thing
> > > > > > is Courier.afm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can somebody help me understand this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure. Your expectations aren't particularly discriminating.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're not going to be helpful, why not just stay out of it?
> > >
> > > You didn't find that helpful? Perhaps you didn't think enough.
> >
> > I mean clearly enough.
>
> It was meant to be helpful.

If I were you, I'd delete all these dumb messages.

--
Neredbojias
Contrary to popular belief, it is believable.

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