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Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
slub on the left of the home page)

http://scp.neue.co.uk

mark

mark | r wrote:

> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a
> reappraisal and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red
> Virtual Book slub on the left of the home page)

The what? Oh, that. The text on that graphic is unreadable.

<click>

Eugh. A popup. Yuck.

"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the
Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash"

Well, that alternative content is rather moronic ... and I already *have*
Flash.

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mark | r wrote:
> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
> slub on the left of the home page)

Page 6 in the animated book has a typo on the first line - I think
there's an extra word ("you").

I just love this sort of stuff. It's totally vague, has no tangible
connection to real life, but suckers all over the world go for it.
Brilliant.

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mark | r arranged shapes to form:

>
> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal

Seeing what is what is much clearer now. Then again, I might have learned
it from last time. The 'sales pitch' upfront is better, and I've got a
handle on what its all about but I still need to be convinced the author is
an authority.

The news still isn't really news and is overly repetitive.

> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
> slub on the left of the home page)

Is that http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ ? IMHO its gimmicky and is a
poor substitute for getting real books made (ie its /obviously/ cheap). On
a usability side, it has all the disadvantages of print with none of the
advantages of it or new media.

Personally, I don't think the BG is appropriate, it's heavy, dark,
scratched, gouged, damaged. Similarly I find the leather-bound vellum book
to has a medaeval gimoire / C19th Romantic feeling (Gothic), its all a bit
materially rich and Satanic. It doesn't seem to match the mood of the
otherwise new-agey icon graphics.



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Onideus Mad Hatter arranged shapes to form:

> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:06:27 +0000, Davémon <"davémon"@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>mark | r arranged shapes to form:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
>>
>>Seeing what is what is much clearer now. Then again, I might have learned
>>it from last time. The 'sales pitch' upfront is better, and I've got a
>>handle on what its all about but I still need to be convinced the author is
>>an authority.
>>
>>The news still isn't really news and is overly repetitive.
>>
>>> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
>>> slub on the left of the home page)
>>
>>Is that http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ ? IMHO its gimmicky and is a
>>poor substitute for getting real books made (ie its /obviously/ cheap). On
>>a usability side, it has all the disadvantages of print with none of the
>>advantages of it or new media.
>>
>>Personally, I don't think the BG is appropriate, it's heavy, dark,
>>scratched, gouged, damaged. Similarly I find the leather-bound vellum book
>>to has a medaeval gimoire / C19th Romantic feeling (Gothic), its all a bit
>>materially rich and Satanic. It doesn't seem to match the mood of the
>>otherwise new-agey icon graphics.
>
> ...well aren't you making some pretty big assumptions here?

I don't think so, where?

> I mean,
> that thing just screams Flash 8 prefab wizard...if that's the case, he
> probably didn't have a whole lot of options as far as the look.
>

I don't see why if it's prefab or not matters, the /end result/ is that it
looks vaguely Satanic/materialistic, isn't very usable, and doesn't help
increase my feelings of authenticity about the product. A few photos of an
actual leather bound tome would convince me more (obviously it's a limited
edition of 100 at $300 each (unfortunately sold out - which is why I have
to get the ebook...).

BTW if it is http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ then you've got as much
control over the look as you want, have a look at it, I think you'd like
it.


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http://www.nightsoil.co.uk/

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:34:09 -0000, "mark | r"
> <> wrote:
>
>> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
>> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
>> slub on the left of the home page)
>>
>> http://scp.neue.co.uk
>
> I haven't tried Flash 8 yet, is all that stuff prefab or did you
> actually design the page turn transitions yourself?
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
>
err nope its appropriated from a freebie script

mark

Davémon wrote:
> mark | r arranged shapes to form:
>
>>
>> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
>
> Seeing what is what is much clearer now. Then again, I might have learned
> it from last time. The 'sales pitch' upfront is better, and I've got a
> handle on what its all about but I still need to be convinced the author is
> an authority.

there arent any authorities, the author is really paniky about gaining a
following (shes had problems with stalkers) so its to be vague...

> The news still isn't really news and is overly repetitive.

yeah i know, its all gonna change once there is actually news

>> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
>> slub on the left of the home page)
>
> Is that http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ ? IMHO its gimmicky and is a
> poor substitute for getting real books made (ie its /obviously/ cheap). On
> a usability side, it has all the disadvantages of print with none of the
> advantages of it or new media.

i showed it the client on a whim and he drooled over it

> Personally, I don't think the BG is appropriate, it's heavy, dark,
> scratched, gouged, damaged. Similarly I find the leather-bound vellum book
> to has a medaeval gimoire / C19th Romantic feeling (Gothic), its all a bit
> materially rich and Satanic. It doesn't seem to match the mood of the
> otherwise new-agey icon graphics.

hmm good point, i thought about adding weight and emphasising the old
mythological style.

>
>

Davémon wrote:
> Onideus Mad Hatter arranged shapes to form:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:06:27 +0000, Davémon <"davémon"@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mark | r arranged shapes to form:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi there, hopefully Ive addressed everyones comments - id like a reappraisal
>>> Seeing what is what is much clearer now. Then again, I might have learned
>>> it from last time. The 'sales pitch' upfront is better, and I've got a
>>> handle on what its all about but I still need to be convinced the author is
>>> an authority.
>>>
>>> The news still isn't really news and is overly repetitive.
>>>
>>>> and review of the flash preview book (flash 8 click the red Virtual Book
>>>> slub on the left of the home page)
>>> Is that http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ ? IMHO its gimmicky and is a
>>> poor substitute for getting real books made (ie its /obviously/ cheap). On
>>> a usability side, it has all the disadvantages of print with none of the
>>> advantages of it or new media.
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't think the BG is appropriate, it's heavy, dark,
>>> scratched, gouged, damaged. Similarly I find the leather-bound vellum book
>>> to has a medaeval gimoire / C19th Romantic feeling (Gothic), its all a bit
>>> materially rich and Satanic. It doesn't seem to match the mood of the
>>> otherwise new-agey icon graphics.
>> ...well aren't you making some pretty big assumptions here?
>
> I don't think so, where?
>
>> I mean,
>> that thing just screams Flash 8 prefab wizard...if that's the case, he
>> probably didn't have a whole lot of options as far as the look.
>>
>
> I don't see why if it's prefab or not matters, the /end result/ is that it
> looks vaguely Satanic/materialistic, isn't very usable, and doesn't help
> increase my feelings of authenticity about the product. A few photos of an
> actual leather bound tome would convince me more (obviously it's a limited
> edition of 100 at $300 each (unfortunately sold out - which is why I have
> to get the ebook...).
>
> BTW if it is http://www.iparigrafika.hu/pageflip/ then you've got as much
> control over the look as you want, have a look at it, I think you'd like
> it.
>
>
have you tried editing the script, we've oversized it and its a major
pain to tweak if you want it to do anything other than the basics...

still i love the shadow effect

mark