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Borrox
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      10-20-2005
Hi
Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
good or bad? if not and this is my best shot then here is my site
www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.
Thanks for your time.
Nig


 
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Barbara de Zoete
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      10-20-2005
[ X-posted: ahc; F'up: ahc ]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:27:24 +0200, Borrox <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
> good or bad?


It's right next door at alt.html.critique.

> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.


Technically this thing is a nightmare. Besides the errors in markup
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nigs1000.f2s.com%2Finde x.htm>
it has valid stuff onboard like <strong><img src="Images/top_trumps_ref.gif"
width="443" height="165"></strong></font></p><p></p></div></td> which is a
simple case of bad coding. The tables are no good for layout, the script for
menus mean that visitors without javascript cannot use that specific menu (and
one of them is Google, which will not be able to index what is behind a
javascript menu).

To top all that, the looks as I first arive, are bad too.
<http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_test/ttr.png> Hint: You don't know the size
of my viewport, you don't know if your visitor can see your images, you don't
know what the default background color of the browser of your visitor is.

Done hinting. Good luck,


--
,-- --<--@ -- PretLetters: 'woest wyf', met vele interesses: ----------.
| weblog | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_private/weblog.html |
| webontwerp | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/webontwerp.html |
|zweefvliegen | http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/html/vliegen.html |
`-------------------------------------------------- --<--@ ------------'
 
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Borrox
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      10-20-2005

"Barbara de Zoete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>[ X-posted: ahc; F'up: ahc ]
>
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:27:24 +0200, Borrox <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
>> good or bad?

>
> It's right next door at alt.html.critique.
>
>> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.

>
> Technically this thing is a nightmare. Besides the errors in markup
> <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nigs1000.f2s.com%2Finde x.htm>
> it has valid stuff onboard like <strong><img
> src="Images/top_trumps_ref.gif" width="443"
> height="165"></strong></font></p><p></p></div></td> which is a simple
> case of bad coding. The tables are no good for layout, the script for
> menus mean that visitors without javascript cannot use that specific menu
> (and one of them is Google, which will not be able to index what is
> behind a javascript menu).
>
> To top all that, the looks as I first arive, are bad too.
> <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_test/ttr.png> Hint: You don't know the
> size of my viewport, you don't know if your visitor can see your images,
> you don't know what the default background color of the browser of your
> visitor is.
>
> Done hinting. Good luck,
>


Ouch!
Thanks for that. I can only blame dreamweaver for the poor code. I will now
go back and fix this.
Do you have any advice about the tables, javascript and how to make it all
work and viewable to most?
The background is tiled a pale blue I don't understand how you see a bright
sickly horrid purple, any ideas how I can get browsers like your to view
correctly?
Thanks for the criticism and well needed I think
Nig


 
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Borrox
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      10-20-2005

"Borrox" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
> good or bad? if not and this is my best shot then here is my site
> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.
> Thanks for your time.
> Nig
>

I have just done a Validation and most of the 'errors' that I am left with I
do not understand. I always thought that this < tag had be ended (closed)
with this > tag. (Excuse me if I am not using the correct terminology but I
am onlt a novice as is evident). Can someone please explaion to me why these
are coming up as errors. The biggest proportion of what I have done are the
Alt which I should have done anyway.
Any help appreciated
Nig


 
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Arne
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      10-20-2005
Once upon a time *Borrox* wrote:

> "Borrox" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dj7gqt$m4s$(E-Mail Removed)2surf.net...
>> Hi
>> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
>> good or bad? if not and this is my best shot then here is my site
>> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.
>> Thanks for your time.
>> Nig
>>

> I have just done a Validation and most of the 'errors' that I am left with I
> do not understand. I always thought that this < tag had be ended (closed)
> with this > tag. (Excuse me if I am not using the correct terminology but I
> am onlt a novice as is evident). Can someone please explaion to me why these
> are coming up as errors. The biggest proportion of what I have done are the
> Alt which I should have done anyway.
> Any help appreciated


The validator is not complaining about the "<" sign. Most time when
"pointing" at that "spot", is where the error is detected because of
something is missing in the tag or somewhere before that. If you read
the expanation under the error, you will get a hint what's wrong.

E.g. this:
Line 268 column 7: end tag for element "DIV" which is not open.
</div> (the ">" in read and underlinded)

Explanation: The Validator found an end tag for the above element (the
"element" is the whole div tag), but that element is not currently
open. This is often caused by a leftover end tag from an element that
was removed during editing, or by an implicitly closed element (if you
have an error related to an element being used where it is not allowed.

On line 61 you have a META tag for keywords within the body part of
the page, that's not allowed. All META must be within the <head> and
</head> part.

BTW, what's the idea with using imagemaps to all images that is only
one single link? Why isn't a simple <a href="....">image</a> good enough?

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rf
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      10-20-2005
Borrox wrote:

> I have just done a Validation and most of the 'errors' that I am left with I
> do not understand.


Fix the obvious ones that you "sort of" understand. Many errors cause a
cascade of further errors.

For example you are missing a > on your <script tag. Put that in and quite
a few subsequent errors will disappear.

Others:

Remove the cargo cult <!-- comments from within your script element.

<script> elements *require* a type attribute. The language attribute is
deprecated. Refer to the specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/

There is no attribute "height" for the table element. Pretty clear, it's
not defined in the specifications.

Ditto bordercolour.

As to the form and p end tags missing, I havn't looked but you are probably
nesting a form element inside a paragraph. This is not allowed. The <form>
tag will close the existing <p> element. An implied </p> is inserted by the
validator. Your </p> is an orphan, so in error.

Last:
Fire up settings>control panel>add/remove programs. Navigate to
Dreamweaver. Choose "remove".

Learn how to code using a vanilla text editor and a browser to test with.

Once you can produce your page all by your self you will be experienced
enough to reinstall DW and be savvy enough to not let it insert all the
rubbish into your page that it *will* insert if you let it.

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rf
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      10-20-2005
Arne wrote:

> BTW, what's the idea with using imagemaps to all images that is only
> one single link?


Dreamweaver.

> Why isn't a simple <a href="....">image</a> good enough?


Indeed

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PeterMcC
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      10-20-2005
Borrox wrote in
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> Hi
> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised
> for good or bad? if not and this is my best shot then here is my site
> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.
> Thanks for your time.


Just a quick mention that your home page, in case you hadn't noticed, is now
cached by Google so the site's on its way to being fully indexed.

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Arne
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      10-20-2005
Once upon a time *Borrox* wrote:

> "Barbara de Zoete" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsp.syxpbdmvx5vgts@zoete_b...
>>[ X-posted: ahc; F'up: ahc ]
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:27:24 +0200, Borrox <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
>>> good or bad?

>>
>> It's right next door at alt.html.critique.
>>
>>> www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.

>>
>> Technically this thing is a nightmare. Besides the errors in markup
>> <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nigs1000.f2s.com%2Finde x.htm>
>> it has valid stuff onboard like <strong><img
>> src="Images/top_trumps_ref.gif" width="443"
>> height="165"></strong></font></p><p></p></div></td> which is a simple
>> case of bad coding. The tables are no good for layout, the script for
>> menus mean that visitors without javascript cannot use that specific menu
>> (and one of them is Google, which will not be able to index what is
>> behind a javascript menu).
>>
>> To top all that, the looks as I first arive, are bad too.
>> <http://home.wanadoo.nl/b.de.zoete/_test/ttr.png> Hint: You don't know the
>> size of my viewport, you don't know if your visitor can see your images,
>> you don't know what the default background color of the browser of your
>> visitor is.
>>
>> Done hinting. Good luck,
>>

>
> Ouch!
> Thanks for that. I can only blame dreamweaver for the poor code. I will now
> go back and fix this.


Do you blame the car who hits you on the road, or the driver holding
the steering wheel in it?

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Jonathan N. Little
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      10-20-2005
Borrox wrote:
> "Borrox" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dj7gqt$m4s$(E-Mail Removed)2surf.net...
>
>>Hi
>>Is there a specific NG where I can post to to have my site criticised for
>>good or bad? if not and this is my best shot then here is my site
>>www.nigs1000.f2s.com/index.htm.
>>Thanks for your time.
>>Nig
>>

>
> I have just done a Validation and most of the 'errors' that I am left with I
> do not understand. I always thought that this < tag had be ended (closed)
> with this > tag. (Excuse me if I am not using the correct terminology but I
> am onlt a novice as is evident). Can someone please explaion to me why these
> are coming up as errors. The biggest proportion of what I have done are the
> Alt which I should have done anyway.
> Any help appreciated
> Nig
>
>

I'll give you an example of an error that on the page that can cause
warning down the page. In the head your script opening tag

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScriptfunction
mmLoadMenus() { ...

Looks like a bad cut'n paste job, and I find no closing tag...

My advice, dump the Dreamweaver for now, fire up Notepad and layout your
page and learn html. Once you know how it works then use Dreamweaver to
speed up the process if you wish, but you will know what you are doing
and can fix the screw ups that WYSIWYG editors can introduce while
developing a page.

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