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Mimic wrote:
> Mr Bean wrote:
>
>>
>> FrontPage code is valid in IE, which covers nearly 100% of all browsers.
>>
>
> Are you serious? you must be, because I dont see alt.flame, alt.kook or
> alt.lamer in the header.
>
>
>> Nearly 100% because every user, who has Opera, FF or something else,
>> still have, just in case IE and can see the page in IE.
>>
>
> Well no. Linux people generally dont have IE. I dont believe[correct me
> if im wrong] that Macs ship with IE. FBSD doesnt, etc etc. If a site
> doesnt work for me in my chosen browser(ffox), then it doesnt get seen.
> That company then loses my business as Ill go somewhere else. The only
> exceptions being places that I cant get the info/product elsewhere.
> Odeon.co.uk for example, FOOLISHLY, constructed their site in JS et al.
> And only after YEARS of complaints have offered a txt version. Now if I
> wanted to see what was on at the cinema, thats the only site I could
> find the exact details I was after, so I HAD to go ****ing around with
> options, settings and IE in order to see it. Should I have had that
> access elsewhere, I wouldnt have used that site.
>
JFYI macs do ship with IE.

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Knowledge is good
-Emil Faber

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:19:09 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:

>Sylvia wrote:
>> What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one before
>> so it needs to be easy.
>>
>> Thank you,
>
>... on reflection I think I was being abit elitist.
>
>Bascially, If you want to get into webdesign, go read the tutorials.
>If you just want to up pics of the family, use something like geocities,
>fortunecity etc, or one of the many free album storage services like
>yahoo's etc.
>I'd still stay away from Frontpage, Word or any other M$ crap. If you
>want a go between, look for dreamweaver or check download.com for
>coffecup etc etc.


If you haven't found it already, you might want to look into the
following:

http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

Good luck

Charles

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:29:49 -0700, someone posing as Charles Eggen
pretended that someone gave a rat's ass and spewed out:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:19:09 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:
>
>>Sylvia wrote:
>>> What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one before
>>> so it needs to be easy.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>
>>... on reflection I think I was being abit elitist.
>>
>>Bascially, If you want to get into webdesign, go read the tutorials.
>>If you just want to up pics of the family, use something like geocities,
>>fortunecity etc, or one of the many free album storage services like
>>yahoo's etc.
>>I'd still stay away from Frontpage, Word or any other M$ crap. If you
>>want a go between, look for dreamweaver or check download.com for
>>coffecup etc etc.
>
> If you haven't found it already, you might want to look into the
> following:
>
> http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
>
> Good luck


Awesome editor. Almost as nice as Kate: http://kate.kde.org/


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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:59:10 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:44:21 -0700, Fly Cooter
> <fly_cooter_@example.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <>,
>>says...
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one before
>>>so it needs to be easy.
>>
>>Do you want the best way or the easiest way? You can't have both. Since
>>you've never made one before you should start with a simple approach and
>>work your way up in complexity.
>>
>>The fastest way to get a site up is to use a free host that offers a
>>site-builder tool. The three most popular are http:/www.tripod.com
>>http:/www.geocities.com and http:/www.angelfire.com
>
> Only a complete ****ing idiot like Fly Poofter would go around
> advertising hit and run servers like Geoshitties and the like.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.buttwater-productions.net

It's funny how you flame someone for suggesting something like Geocities
when you were recommending FrontPage earlier. Ironic...

Rev Turd Fredericks wrote:
> Mimic wrote:
>
>> Mr Bean wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> FrontPage code is valid in IE, which covers nearly 100% of all browsers.
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious? you must be, because I dont see alt.flame, alt.kook
>> or alt.lamer in the header.
>>
>>
>>> Nearly 100% because every user, who has Opera, FF or something else,
>>> still have, just in case IE and can see the page in IE.
>>>
>>
>> Well no. Linux people generally dont have IE. I dont believe[correct
>> me if im wrong] that Macs ship with IE. FBSD doesnt, etc etc. If a
>> site doesnt work for me in my chosen browser(ffox), then it doesnt get
>> seen. That company then loses my business as Ill go somewhere else.
>> The only exceptions being places that I cant get the info/product
>> elsewhere. Odeon.co.uk for example, FOOLISHLY, constructed their site
>> in JS et al. And only after YEARS of complaints have offered a txt
>> version. Now if I wanted to see what was on at the cinema, thats the
>> only site I could find the exact details I was after, so I HAD to go
>> ****ing around with options, settings and IE in order to see it.
>> Should I have had that access elsewhere, I wouldnt have used that site.
>>
> JFYI macs do ship with IE.
>

Cool thx, Ill have to keep that in mind

--
Mimic

"The man who awaits the rising of the sun, cannot wait forever."
ZGF0YWZsZXhAY2FubmFiaXNtYWlsLmNvbQ== [ www.hidemyemail.net ]

Charles Eggen wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:19:09 +0100, Mimic <dev@null> wrote:
>
>
>>Sylvia wrote:
>>
>>>What's the best way to build my own Websites? I've never made one before
>>>so it needs to be easy.
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>
>>... on reflection I think I was being abit elitist.
>>
>>Bascially, If you want to get into webdesign, go read the tutorials.
>>If you just want to up pics of the family, use something like geocities,
>>fortunecity etc, or one of the many free album storage services like
>>yahoo's etc.
>>I'd still stay away from Frontpage, Word or any other M$ crap. If you
>>want a go between, look for dreamweaver or check download.com for
>>coffecup etc etc.
>
>
>
> If you haven't found it already, you might want to look into the
> following:
>
> http://www.chami.com/html-kit/
>
> Good luck
>
> Charles
>

Ill have a play with that tomorrow, cheers

--
Mimic

"The man who awaits the rising of the sun, cannot wait forever."
ZGF0YWZsZXhAY2FubmFiaXNtYWlsLmNvbQ== [ www.hidemyemail.net ]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:48:10 +0800, Mr Bean <>
wrote:

>Me wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:27:29 +0800, Mr Bean <>
>> wrote:
>
>>>No d/loading, installing etc.
>>
>>
>> You've obviously never used FrontPage. It's a PITA to get it to
>> display things the way you WANT them displayed, and you'll spend hours
>> dicking with it TRYING to get it to display things the way you want
>> them displayed. I find FrontPage more complicated to use than just
>> coding the stupid site in Note Pad. I mean, crimeny, it ain't like
>> learning html is oppressively complex.
>
>
>
>I use it all the time. I do remove not wanted code but FP 2003 makes my
>life easy. I've learned to use it and to fight bad coding.
>
>But that 'bad code' is still fully compatible with the most popular
>browser, IE and she doesn't need even to know about it.
>
>

Hey, wait a sec... is this the same "Mr. Bean" of AHM/databasux hack
fame?

Me wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:48:10 +0800, Mr Bean <>

> Hey, wait a sec... is this the same "Mr. Bean" of AHM/databasux hack
> fame?

I don't think so.

PerfectReign wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:02:26 +0100, Mimic pretented somebody gave a rat's
> ass and spewed forth:

> First off, I can't believe someone is actually trying to defend IE.


I don't defent it. I'm dealing with it because I don't have any other
reasonable option.


> It
> kind of reminds me of those Windows kooks who try to convince me Windows
> is somehow better than Linux.


As above.


> Let's see - you can choose between an '87 Hundai Excel or a 2006 BMW 750i....
>
> ...choices, choices....
>
> Ah, well, time to jump in the pool.



You have made perfect point here.

To drive to work 5km Hundai is much better choice than BMW.

Thanks...


Web page... somo photos and typical: Who I'm and what I do like?

FrontPage, just perfect.

Yahoo front page, you would be the best.

Mimic wrote:
> Rev Turd Fredericks wrote:
>
>> Mimic wrote:
>>
>>> Mr Bean wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrontPage code is valid in IE, which covers nearly 100% of all
>>>> browsers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you serious? you must be, because I dont see alt.flame, alt.kook
>>> or alt.lamer in the header.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nearly 100% because every user, who has Opera, FF or something else,
>>>> still have, just in case IE and can see the page in IE.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well no. Linux people generally dont have IE. I dont believe[correct
>>> me if im wrong] that Macs ship with IE. FBSD doesnt, etc etc. If a
>>> site doesnt work for me in my chosen browser(ffox), then it doesnt
>>> get seen. That company then loses my business as Ill go somewhere
>>> else. The only exceptions being places that I cant get the
>>> info/product elsewhere. Odeon.co.uk for example, FOOLISHLY,
>>> constructed their site in JS et al. And only after YEARS of
>>> complaints have offered a txt version. Now if I wanted to see what
>>> was on at the cinema, thats the only site I could find the exact
>>> details I was after, so I HAD to go ****ing around with options,
>>> settings and IE in order to see it. Should I have had that access
>>> elsewhere, I wouldnt have used that site.
>>>
>> JFYI macs do ship with IE.
>>
>
> Cool thx, Ill have to keep that in mind
>
Heh, but I should add that probably nobody actually uses it. It still
doesn't have activeX (thankfully) and Safari is so much better. The
version of IE that I have for my mac is 5.2, I have never used it for
anything but browsing MS documentation.


--
Knowledge is good
-Emil Faber