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Previously in alt.html, "Montgomery BOO...URNS" <>
said:

> http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)

Well, the CSS validates, which is good. A couple of warnings there -
worth fixing up.

The HTML is not valid though, with 16 errors. All fairly trivial to fix
though.

Given that it is a new site, it really should be written using the
Strict doctype, not Transitional. Replace all those presentational
elements and attributes with CSS and make it Strict.

I can't see any need for tables on that page.

What's the applet for? It doesn't show up at all in Firefox.

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"Montgomery BOO...URNS" <> wrote:

>Hello folks:
>
>Well, I have considered all the advice that has been given to me over the
>course of the last few months and I broke down and started learning CSS
>coding. Take a look at the following website and let me know what, if
>anything, can be improved (codewise) here...
>
>http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)
>
I'm just learning this stuff too.

When I use:
<center><div class=xx>stuff</div></center>
and try to validate the page, I get an error message telling me that
<center> is deprecated. But, when I validated your page, I only got the
error that you had no ending tag for your <center><div>...

Where have I gone wrong?

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

Ed Jay wrote:

> "Montgomery BOO...URNS" <> wrote:
>
>>http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)
>
> When I use:
> <center><div class=xx>stuff</div></center>
> and try to validate the page, I get an error message telling me that
> <center> is deprecated. But, when I validated your page, I only got the
> error that you had no ending tag for your <center><div>...
>
> Where have I gone wrong?

You haven't gone wrong.
The OP is just using a transitional doctype. That doctype is meant for
documents which are "in transition". It allows for deprecated
elements, to make it easier on the person who is editing the page I
guess
New documents are best written in Strict, which doesn't allow for
deprecated heritage from old webpages.

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Els <> wrote:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> "Montgomery BOO...URNS" <> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)
>>
>> When I use:
>> <center><div class=xx>stuff</div></center>
>> and try to validate the page, I get an error message telling me that
>> <center> is deprecated. But, when I validated your page, I only got the
>> error that you had no ending tag for your <center><div>...
>>
>> Where have I gone wrong?
>
>You haven't gone wrong.
>The OP is just using a transitional doctype. That doctype is meant for
>documents which are "in transition". It allows for deprecated
>elements, to make it easier on the person who is editing the page I
>guess
>New documents are best written in Strict, which doesn't allow for
>deprecated heritage from old webpages.

Thanks, although I don't know if I feel better.

I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

Previously in alt.html, Ed Jay <> said:

> I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.

http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/

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Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
alt.html FAQ :: http://html-faq.com/

Hello folks:

Well, I have considered all the advice that has been given to me over the
course of the last few months and I broke down and started learning CSS
coding. Take a look at the following website and let me know what, if
anything, can be improved (codewise) here...

http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)

Thanks for all of your help. It's been greatly appreciated.

DC

Mark Parnell <> wrote:

>Previously in alt.html, Ed Jay <> said:
>
>> I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.
>
>http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/

Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.

Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
with text aligned both left and right. Example:
Test1 Test2

I defined a simple box as:

..menu {
border: 1px solid black;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 300px;
}

The code on my page is:

<div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>

The result is:

Test1
Test2

Why?

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

Ed Jay wrote:

> Mark Parnell <> wrote:
>
>>Previously in alt.html, Ed Jay <> said:
>>
>>> I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.
>>
>>http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
>
> Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.
>
> Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
> with text aligned both left and right. Example:
> Test1 Test2
>
> I defined a simple box as:
>
> .menu {
> border: 1px solid black;
> margin-left: auto;
> margin-right: auto;
> width: 300px;
> }
>
> The code on my page is:
>
> <div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
> style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>
>
> The result is:
>
> Test1
> Test2
>
> Why?

Because ...
Well, add a visible border to each div, and you will know

To make it work, you should float the first one left, and give it 50%
width (probably a bit less to make it work in other browsers too), and
give the second one a left margin of 50%.

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Els <> wrote:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> Mark Parnell <> wrote:
>>
>>>Previously in alt.html, Ed Jay <> said:
>>>
>>>> I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.
>>>
>>>http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
>>
>> Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.
>>
>> Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
>> with text aligned both left and right. Example:
>> Test1 Test2
>>
>> I defined a simple box as:
>>
>> .menu {
>> border: 1px solid black;
>> margin-left: auto;
>> margin-right: auto;
>> width: 300px;
>> }
>>
>> The code on my page is:
>>
>> <div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
>> style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>
>>
>> The result is:
>>
>> Test1
>> Test2
>>
>> Why?
>
>Because ...
>Well, add a visible border to each div, and you will know
>
>To make it work, you should float the first one left, and give it 50%
>width (probably a bit less to make it work in other browsers too), and
>give the second one a left margin of 50%.

Thank you again. I'm going to have to translate what you've said into code
I understand, but it's 1:30AM and I can't focus my eyes any longer. It's
obviously past my bedtime.

Thank you.

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

Ed Jay wrote:

> Els <> wrote:
>
>>Ed Jay wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Parnell <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Previously in alt.html, Ed Jay <> said:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.
>>>>
>>>>http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.
>>>
>>> Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
>>> with text aligned both left and right. Example:
>>> Test1 Test2
>>>
>>> I defined a simple box as:
>>>
>>> .menu {
>>> border: 1px solid black;
>>> margin-left: auto;
>>> margin-right: auto;
>>> width: 300px;
>>> }
>>>
>>> The code on my page is:
>>>
>>> <div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
>>> style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>
>>>
>>> The result is:
>>>
>>> Test1
>>> Test2
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>>Because ...
>>Well, add a visible border to each div, and you will know
>>
>>To make it work, you should float the first one left, and give it 50%
>>width (probably a bit less to make it work in other browsers too), and
>>give the second one a left margin of 50%.
>
> Thank you again. I'm going to have to translate what you've said into code
> I understand, but it's 1:30AM and I can't focus my eyes any longer. It's
> obviously past my bedtime.

You're in Australia? (or Japan?) Go to bed! The European crew will
take over from here, your turn will come again

Sleep well

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- Renato Russo -
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