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Luigi Donatello Asero
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      06-05-2005

"dorayme" <> skrev i meddelandet
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> > From: "Luigi Donatello Asero" <>

>
> >
> > "Oli Filth" <> skrev i meddelandet

>
> >> Why not just use a different colour for visited links, like every other
> >> web-page in the world?

>
> > I did it before but I was not satisfied with that so I am looking for

new
> > solutions.

>
>
> What you (LDA) want sounds very unnatural. Personally, the only time I

ever
> make visited *at all different* is where it is likely to help - especially
> because it makes things look more jangly for no good reason. Mostly it is
> unlikely. In one site I have a large menu at the top of a page that refer

to
> short abstracts of papers below. Here is a situation where a user might

well
> browse and want to tick off what has been visited, so I made visited
> different.



At present there is an alternative html version with links which do not
disappear but I am considering to make it accessible later only to
registered users.

> You can do what you propose but at great trouble, you would need to make

all
> the necessary combinations of near identical html pages and think it all
> through. (this would not be for browser back button use). I would rather
> die.
>
> Why not be a bit spooky, make visited same colour as background. This

would
> be tidy even if a bit gapy - links would sort of be there on hover... a
> shiver is a runnin' down ma spine right now...
>
> dorayme



I am trying to divide the website in different sections according to the
topic they deal with, for example
the main content of the pages which give information about holiday lodgings
which are in Italy will have the background- color
" #ccffff;" which is also used in the menu for the correspondent section
as on
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...lle-daosta.php



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Gazza
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      06-05-2005


Luigi Donatello Asero mumbled the following on 04/06/2005 21:14:
> Well, the user must have used the link the first time in order that it can
> be a visited link, so he has already been once on that page but, may-be he
> wants to visit it after 10 minutes because he wants to check up something on
> that page again, so I think that it would be good if he could actively
> choose to display the visited links again or if they would appear again
> after 15 minutes, for example.


If you were driving, and came to a roundabout/crossroads, would you
expect one road to disappear just because you drove down it sometime
previously? Would you then sit there and wait 15 minutes for the road to
reappear again, or would you head off in another direction (website)
frustrated? As someone else mentioned, your idea is very unnatural and
will only serve to confuse visitors more. If you have so many links that
you feel there's too many for a new user, then change your design -
don't try and hack it.
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Travis Newbury
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      06-05-2005
Gazza wrote:
> If you were driving...


If you are going to make an analogy, at lease make it relevant

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Luigi Donatello Asero
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      06-05-2005

"Gazza" <> skrev i meddelandet
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> If you were driving, and came to a roundabout/crossroads, would you
> expect one road to disappear just because you drove down it sometime
> previously? Would you then sit there and wait 15 minutes for the road to
> reappear again, or would you head off in another direction (website)
> frustrated? As someone else mentioned, your idea is very unnatural and
> will only serve to confuse visitors more. If you have so many links that
> you feel there's too many for a new user, then change your design -
> don't try and hack it.
> --
> Gazza



Freedom of speech is very important.


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Arne
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      06-05-2005
Once upon a time *Luigi Donatello Asero* wrote:

> "Gazza" <> skrev i meddelandet
> news:HSAoe.6766$...
>> If you were driving, and came to a roundabout/crossroads, would you
>> expect one road to disappear just because you drove down it sometime
>> previously? Would you then sit there and wait 15 minutes for the road to
>> reappear again, or would you head off in another direction (website)
>> frustrated? As someone else mentioned, your idea is very unnatural and
>> will only serve to confuse visitors more. If you have so many links that
>> you feel there's too many for a new user, then change your design -
>> don't try and hack it.

>
>
> Freedom of speech is very important.
>


But your business will suffer from it if you use it on your business
site as you have done until now. No wonder the site looks like
"Jerusalem's destruction" (uttrycket "Jerusalems förstörelse" har du
kanske hört). I would not buy anything from a site like that, even if
I was able to find what I was looking for.

Php and html versions of the same pages? You said in an other thread
that you have a reason for that. What in earth would that reason be?
Also http and https versions, have you dropped the http version and
why using https on ordinary html files? Secure page is good for order
forms where persoonal information is required, but ordinary html?????

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Luigi Donatello Asero
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      06-05-2005

"Arne" <> skrev i meddelandet
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> Once upon a time *Luigi Donatello Asero* wrote:
>
> > "Gazza" <> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:HSAoe.6766$...

> Php and html versions of the same pages? You said in an other thread
> that you have a reason for that. What in earth would that reason be?
> Also http and https versions, have you dropped the http version and
> why using https on ordinary html files? Secure page is good for order
> forms where persoonal information is required, but ordinary html?????


Because the user can be more sure that a page which is shown over https
belongs to the site it maintains to be.
Many users do not know that yet but some do.

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kchayka
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      06-05-2005
Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
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> Because the user can be more sure that a page which is shown over https
> belongs to the site it maintains to be.


If the page isn't asking for credit card info or other sensitive data,
nobody (except maybe you) is going to care if it's SSL or not.

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Luigi Donatello Asero
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      06-05-2005

"kchayka" <> skrev i meddelandet
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> Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> >
> > Because the user can be more sure that a page which is shown over https
> > belongs to the site it maintains to be.

>
> If the page isn't asking for credit card info or other sensitive data,
> nobody (except maybe you) is going to care if it's SSL or not.



Please try to read a little bit of European laws and then come back, and
discuss the question again.

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Lauri Raittila
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      06-05-2005
in alt.html, Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
>
> "kchayka" <> skrev i meddelandet
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> > Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:
> > >
> > > Because the user can be more sure that a page which is shown over https
> > > belongs to the site it maintains to be.

> >
> > If the page isn't asking for credit card info or other sensitive data,
> > nobody (except maybe you) is going to care if it's SSL or not.

>
>
> Please try to read a little bit of European laws and then come back, and
> discuss the question again.


Which law you imagine requiring SSL here? and for what? Anyway, which
country you think has such law? Europe is big, and has no common laws...

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dorayme
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      06-05-2005
> From: Travis Newbury <>

> Gazza wrote:
>> If you were driving...

>
> If you are going to make an analogy, at lease make it relevant


I thought it quite good. Analogies are to be judged on the the points they
are designed to bring out. They are not something to be found in a big bag
where there are "correct" ones. The road analogy highlighted relevant
features.

dorayme

 
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