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JDS wrote:
> Nico Schuyt wrote:
> [HardCore Internet editor;
http://editor.hardcoreinternet.co.uk/page.php/id=702]

>> I hesitate to include it in my CMS though. The risk is probably to
>> great that the user makes a mess of the site

> There is *always* a risk of the user f**ing up the site, if you give
> them the opportunity to type stuff into a <textarea>. My finding is
> that, with HardCore Internet's editor, there is *less* of a chance of
> the user screwing things up. At least the editor doesn't make typo's
> in the HTML, like forgetting to close a tag with a gt sign or
> similar. And I have had users do that in plain-ol' <textarea>s.

OK, if it's a choice between a user creating a load of HTML by hand and one
using a tool like HCI, the latter is to be preferred. But In my situation
there's no need to create tables or forms, insert pictures or frames etc.
Basically all elements for a page are submitted in a form and stored in
database. Pages are created bij PHP and formatted by a stylesheet. The only
thing we need is some tiny additional formatting like creating a list out of
paragraphs or emphasize words.
If a complete toolbox is supplied I'm sure we'll end up in trouble

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> JDS wrote:
>> Nico Schuyt wrote:
>> [HardCore Internet editor;
>> http://editor.hardcoreinternet.co.uk/page.php/id=702]
>
>>> I hesitate to include it in my CMS though. The risk is probably to
>>> great that the user makes a mess of the site
>
>> There is *always* a risk of the user f**ing up the site, if you give
>> them the opportunity to type stuff into a <textarea>. My finding is
>> that, with HardCore Internet's editor, there is *less* of a chance of
>> the user screwing things up. At least the editor doesn't make typo's
>> in the HTML, like forgetting to close a tag with a gt sign or similar.
>> And I have had users do that in plain-ol' <textarea>s.
>
> OK, if it's a choice between a user creating a load of HTML by hand and
> one using a tool like HCI, the latter is to be preferred. But In my
> situation there's no need to create tables or forms, insert pictures or
> frames etc. Basically all elements for a page are submitted in a form
> and stored in database. Pages are created bij PHP and formatted by a
> stylesheet. The only thing we need is some tiny additional formatting
> like creating a list out of paragraphs or emphasize words.
> If a complete toolbox is supplied I'm sure we'll end up in trouble
>

I didn't look through their SDK completely, but I'm sure there must be a
way to turn features on and off, or you could just strip unnessary markup
server side.

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Adrienne wrote:
> Nico Schuyt riting in
>>> [HardCore Internet editor;
>>> http://editor.hardcoreinternet.co.uk/page.php/id=702]
>>
>>>> I hesitate to include it in my CMS though. The risk is probably to
>>>> great that the user makes a mess of the site

> I didn't look through their SDK completely, but I'm sure there must
> be a way to turn features on and off,

It is configurable but in this particular case I'll have to strip about
99.3% of the buttons

> or you could just strip
> unnessary markup server side.

Hmmm, not so easy I think.

Probably I'll apply the tool one of these days. Not in a website, but in an
application that allows customers to create HTML mailings.

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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:15:07 +0100, Nico Schuyt wrote:

>> I didn't look through their SDK completely, but I'm sure there must
>> be a way to turn features on and off,
>
> It is configurable but in this particular case I'll have to strip about
> 99.3% of the buttons

But they make it pretty easy for you to do this.

Also, one more "pro" in their favor: their code is available (once you buy
the license) for you to customize a bit. For example, I was able to tweak
their tools to add "quicklinks" to get a list of pages from my websites's
database.

I was never able to do anything like that using a Java applet, for example.

later...

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