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Pete Gray
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      03-11-2005
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> I started with Typo3 and thought that was the solution. But it was
> over 20MB and has a steep learning curve, and a special language you
> have to learn when customizing.
>
> Then I thought EZ Publishing was THE answer, standards compliant etc.
> But using it in a shared host environment can be a problem, the
> php.ini needs to be changed, I remember there is a parameter something
> like "memory_limit" that needs at least 16MB. Also we had to hire a
> PHP specialist who spent hours getting it to work.
>
> Now I found Mambo, and I cannot find the right documentation. Also, I
> can't find how to add the wysiwyg editor, and which one. And in the
> text only text box you (or worse, my customer) needs to add "<br />"
> manually to create a new line.
>
> This is my personal experience and I am a bit desperate now...
>
> -Kor
>


Don't know about Typo, but the key for EZ Publish (not always available
in a shared environment) is that safe_mode must be off, or it won't work
at all. Getting the memory limit changed is not a problem -- just ask
your hosting provider. It does take an age to generate pages on first
viewing -- but once they're cached it's fine. I quite like ezpublish as
the output seems to be properly marked up. It also has much more
powerful means of setting permissions for users.

Mambo on the other hand will work with safe_mode on, has a simple admin
interface and is easy to customise, but its output is by default a
horrid mess of nested tables. I think you would need to edit the modules
you are using to take out the <td class="contentheading"> type of thing
and replace it with proper mark up. Strangely enough I was looking for
just this very thing today and found this site which uses Mambo but with
properly marked up output:

<http://www.aurum3.com/>

As for the wysiwyg editor, it's TinyMCE -- isn't it installed by
default? What version of Mambo were you looking at?

Mambo documentation appears to be almost non-existent, but there are
plenty of sites with tutorials, for example here:
<http://www.mamboportal.com/content/section/2/43/>

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Kor
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      03-12-2005
Pete Gray <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>.. .
> In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
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Hi Pete,

> Getting the memory limit changed is not a problem -- just ask
> your hosting provider.


Well, this hosting provider was unwilling, they said it might cause
problems for other customers.


> but its output is by default a
> horrid mess of nested tables. I think you would need to edit the modules
> you are using to take out the <td class="contentheading"> type of thing
> and replace it with proper mark up. Strangely enough I was looking for
> just this very thing today and found this site which uses Mambo but with
> properly marked up output:
>
> <http://www.aurum3.com/>


Somewhere on a forum I found a posting from someone who also told
about his efforts to make the output standard compliant and div-based
instead of tables. He said he mostly edited
components/com_content/content.html.php

> As for the wysiwyg editor, it's TinyMCE -- isn't it installed by
> default? What version of Mambo were you looking at?


4.5.1, and no wysiwyg

> Mambo documentation appears to be almost non-existent, but there are
> plenty of sites with tutorials, for example here:
> <http://www.mamboportal.com/content/section/2/43/>


thanks pete, I will look into that

regards, Kor
 
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      03-12-2005
In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
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> Pete Gray <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>.. .
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
> > (E-Mail Removed) says...

>
> > Getting the memory limit changed is not a problem -- just ask
> > your hosting provider.

>
> Well, this hosting provider was unwilling, they said it might cause
> problems for other customers.
>


Hmmm, that always sounds to me like a 'We're not exactly sure what we're
doing here, so we're going to play it safe' kind of answer. I've never
had a problem with that. Maybe you need a new hosting provider?
>
> > but its output is by default a
> > horrid mess of nested tables. I think you would need to edit the modules
> > you are using to take out the <td class="contentheading"> type of thing
> > and replace it with proper mark up. Strangely enough I was looking for
> > just this very thing today and found this site which uses Mambo but with
> > properly marked up output:
> >
> > <http://www.aurum3.com/>

>
> Somewhere on a forum I found a posting from someone who also told
> about his efforts to make the output standard compliant and div-based
> instead of tables. He said he mostly edited
> components/com_content/content.html.php


Thanks for that. The reason I know a little about this is because we're
looking at Mambo as a possible solution, so I've been digging around.
>
> > As for the wysiwyg editor, it's TinyMCE -- isn't it installed by
> > default? What version of Mambo were you looking at?

>
> 4.5.1, and no wysiwyg
>


I'm sure it was packaged with the 4.5.1 I downloaded. You could always
upgrade to 4.5.2.

> > Mambo documentation appears to be almost non-existent, but there are
> > plenty of sites with tutorials, for example here:
> > <http://www.mamboportal.com/content/section/2/43/>

>
> thanks pete, I will look into that
>

There's also <http://tutorialcenter.net/Tutorials/> with free mambo
tutorials.

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Kor
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      03-13-2005
> > > As for the wysiwyg editor, it's TinyMCE -- isn't it installed by
> > > default? What version of Mambo were you looking at?

> >
> > 4.5.1, and no wysiwyg
> >

>
> I'm sure it was packaged with the 4.5.1 I downloaded. You could always
> upgrade to 4.5.2.


I downloaded a tutorial from
www.netshinesoftware.com/mambo-tutorial.html
which explains that you have to turn the wysiwyg on manually. Go to
Main admin menu - Mambots - Site Mambots
and then check "No WYSIWYG Editor" (????) and "TinyMCE WYSIWYG
Editor". When I do so, and click 'publish' this is not saved and still
no wysiwyg.

> There's also <http://tutorialcenter.net/Tutorials/> with free mambo
> tutorials.


Thanks, and I found this:
www.mambosolutions.com/dw_tutorial
www.mamboportal.com
 
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