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Steve Pugh
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      01-20-2005
"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote:

>First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985


Yes it was. The Internet dates back to the end of the sixties.
E-mail from the early 70s; Usenet from about 1980; TCP/IP, FTP and
Telnet from the early 80s. The WWW was a late comer - HTML and HTTP
were invented in 1989.

> so you couldn't be online at the age of 11 writing code in html


Not in HTML, no. But Hywel never said HTML, in fact he never said
online either, he said "However, I have been writing *my own* code
since I was 11, starting out with BASIC on a VIC-20."

>By the time you started grade school, I was already programming in BASIC.
>My first computer was an atari 400.


So you both started out as BASIC programmers. That's nice you
something in common (sorry Hywel).

>Windows? What the hell is that?


Good question and one that many people ask every day.

>Other than the inclusion of some php stuff, your site is nothing more than
>standard html any kid could write.


I presume you mean Hywel's site at kibo.org?

It has content and it works. That's two huge steps beyond what you've
produced to date.

>Why do you use javascript to show an image when an image tag would suffice?


Um, the function showImage() us empty and never called. I wonder what
it's doing there at all. It certainly isn't being used to display an
image.

>You keep blasting away at me for no alt attributes, and you don't implement
>them yourself.


Where?

Steve

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Fat Sam
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      01-20-2005

"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
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> First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985 so you couldn't be online

at
> the age of 11 writing code in html since that wasn't even really available
> yet.


He didn't say he was writing HTML code at the age of 11...Did you actually
read the words that he wrote?.....He said he was writing his own code since
the age of 11 starting out with Basic on a Vic20....No-one mentioned html
except you......

> By the time you started grade school, I was already programming in BASIC.


Good for you.....The only thing that proves is that you're older than
him......

> Other than the inclusion of some php stuff, your site is nothing more than
> standard html any kid could write.


Welcome to the internet.....The whole fricking thing is html....PHP and ASP
simply generates html code for your browser to read......

> Why do you use javascript to show an image when an image tag would

suffice?
> You keep blasting away at me for no alt attributes, and you don't

implement
> them yourself.


The difference is, his site is complete and works.....Yours has shown no
progress at all in the last month except for colour changes etc.....It still
doesn't do anything worth speaking of.....

> Duende's site? Nothing fancy or special about it.


Apart from the fact that it's complete and works.....

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Andy Dingley
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      01-20-2005
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:10:54 -0600, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001>
wrote:

>It amazes me how often YOU bigots forget you were once a fledgeling
>struggling baby.


Yes, but we learned better. You're (hilariously) impervious.


Please keep posting. You brighten a dull day.

 
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Fat Sam
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      01-20-2005

"Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:08:54 -0000 Hywel Jenkins wrote:
>
> > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
> >> http://somestuff.batcave.net/expandmenu3.htm

>
> >> The only errors are from NO alt tags so don't be whining about the
> >> vallidation.

>
> > Wrong, RtS:
> > Line 29, column 23: end tag for element "STYLE" which is not open

>
> That is in the javascript section which will be put in an external file.
>
> > Don't worry though - you're still amazing me.

>
> And you were such an expert even before there was an internet.
> It amazes me how often YOU bigots forget you were once a fledgeling
> struggling baby.
> Instead of giving constructive advice, you're more willing to shoot

someone
> down.


Why are you getting so upset?.....
In your original post you issued the instruction "<flame on!>", and your
subject title indicated that you were ready to accept these flames.....
So why are you getting so upset now that you're receiving these
flames?......
You're the one who asked for them......

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Hywel Jenkins
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      01-20-2005
In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
> First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985


You're an idiot. The internet was invented by DARPA in the early/mid
60s.

> so you couldn't be online at
> the age of 11 writing code in html since that wasn't even really available
> yet.


I didn't say anything about being online when I was 11. I said I was
writing BASIC on a VIC-20. Learn to read before you respond, please.
You may end up looking less of a prick if you do.


> By the time you started grade school, I was already programming in BASIC.


You've never done *any* programming, RtS.


> My first computer was an atari 400.


Released in 1979. A whole 8 months before the VIC-20.


> Windows? What the hell is that?


They're things that some people have. I doubt you have them in your
padded room, though.


> Other than the inclusion of some php stuff, your site is nothing more than
> standard html any kid could write.


So what? You mean like the code that displays the images in the
rambles, such as this one:
http://kibo.org.uk/rambles.php?sp=10&id=85

How would do you do that? That is, take an image that is 3.1 megapixels
on the server and resize it to that at which it's displayed.

What other code would you suggest I add to make it more grown up, RtS?
Some wanky, copied, JavaScript like the crap you're struggling with? I
was writing far more advanced DHTML that you're doing now in 1998.
Fsck, an application I wrote won a Technology Innovation award in 1999.

> Why do you use javascript to show an image when an image tag would suffice?


Where do I do that? The only scripting in my site is an empty function
called ShowImage. It does nothing unless the image on the right is
found on the server in its full-size version.

> You keep blasting away at me for no alt attributes, and you don't implement
> them yourself.


Every image on my site has an alt attribute. At most there are three
images on a page, usually just two (logo and photo).


> Duende's site? Nothing fancy or special about it. Half the space is blank.


So, that's a significantly smaller amount of blank space that's inside
your head?


> Links open in a new page, where with a little more work, the information
> could appear all on the same page.
> A sick looking dancing chicken for an opening page? Extremely childish and
> amateurish.


You have the audacity to call someone amateurish? Amazing. You're so
funny, you mothertrucker.

> You sir, are a classic bigot.


You have no idea what a "bigot" is, have you? I am most certainly not
intolerant of people with differing views from mine. I just don't
tolerate fools gladly. You, RtS, are a fool.

You don't know the difference between "capital" and "capitol", though?

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Hywel Jenkins
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      01-20-2005
In article <>,
says...
> >By the time you started grade school, I was already programming in BASIC.
> >My first computer was an atari 400.

>
> So you both started out as BASIC programmers. That's nice you
> something in common (sorry Hywel).


Thanks. Very. Much. Though I don't consider myself a basic programmer
anymore, having moved on to Perl, C, C++, PHP, Modula2, COBOL (it's a
programming language, honest), ...


> >Why do you use javascript to show an image when an image tag would suffice?

>
> Um, the function showImage() us empty and never called. I wonder what
> it's doing there at all. It certainly isn't being used to display an
> image.


Fixed now. PHP checks the existence of a fuller version of the image.
I'd lazily wrapped the condition around the line of code that shows the
image.

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Hywel Jenkins
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      01-20-2005
In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
> On 20 Jan 2005 09:25:27 GMT Duende wrote:
>
> > While sitting in a puddle W=3Frm scribbled in the mud:

>
> >> Oh, and btw. I found your picture at
> >> http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~johanknu/4i.../1080065830042.
> >> jpg

>
> > And for his real true life photos,
> > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/unit24/cenkoc/

>
> Speaking of copyrighted images used without permission


Who was?

> However, since it is cropped, I can easily lay claim to the copyright since
> it is MY face.


You can't.

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Karl Core
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      01-20-2005

"Hywel Jenkins" <> wrote in message
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> In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
>> First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985

>
> You're an idiot. The internet was invented by DARPA in the early/mid
> 60s.


STOP LYING!
Al Gore invented the Internet!


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Hywel Jenkins
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      01-20-2005
In article <csot7b$55u$>,
says...
>
> "Hywel Jenkins" <> wrote in message
> news: t...
> > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
> >> First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985

> >
> > You're an idiot. The internet was invented by DARPA in the early/mid
> > 60s.

>
> STOP LYING!
> Al Gore invented the Internet!


Good point. He's one righteous dude.

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Andy Dingley
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      01-20-2005
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:42:11 -0600, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001>
wrote:

>First, the internet wasn't even born until 1985


Now I know you're just spouting garbage, but I can't for the life of
me think what significant 'net development happened in 1985 ?
 
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