Object ID embed and validation??

Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID and
embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?
Here is the code suggested by http://www.streamalot.com/embed.shtml. This
validator http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html doesn't like it at all.

Christopher Richards

Previously in alt.html, Christopher Richards
<> said:

> Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID and
> embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?

I've seen it done with Flash, so probably. Doesn't mean it's a good idea
though.

http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/embed.htm

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Christopher Richards wrote:

> Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID and
> embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?
> Here is the code suggested by http://www.streamalot.com/embed.shtml. This
> validator http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html doesn't like it at all.

================================================== ==============
<!-- BEGIN GENERIC ALL BROWSER FRIENDLY HTML FOR WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER -->

<object id="MediaPlayer1" width=180 height=200
classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"

codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=5,1,52,701"
standby="Loading Microsoft® Windows® Media Player components..."
type="application/x-oleobject" align="middle">
<param name="FileName" value="Server/file">
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="True">
<param name="DefaultFrame" value="mainFrame">
<embed type="application/x-mplayer2"
pluginspage = "http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/MediaPlayer/"
src="Server/File" align="middle"
width=176
height=144
defaultframe="rightFrame"
showstatusbar=true>
</embed>
</object> <!-- END GENERIC ALL BROWSER FRIENDLY HTML FOR WINDOWS MEDIA
PLAYER --><br>
<a href="Server/file"><font size="2">Click
here for standalone player</font></a><br>

<a
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/default.asp"><font
size="1">Download Windows Media Player Here</font></a></p>
================================================== ==============

Without trying the validation, I can already spot some tags that do not
close, e.g. replace <br> with <br />.

The code above was probably intended for HTML, not XHTML.

Roy

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"Christopher Richards" <>
wrote in news:CG%Gd.12704$ m:

> Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID
> and embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?
> Here is the code suggested by http://www.streamalot.com/embed.shtml.
> This validator http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html doesn't like
> it at all.
>
>

Some of the attributes, such as "align" and "pluginspage" aren't valid
attributes. About the best I could do using xhtml is the following:

<p><object id="mediaplayer1" width="180" height="200"
classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2
inf.cab#Version=5,1,52,701"
standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components..."
type="application/x-oleobject" >
<param name="FileName" value="Server/file" />
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="true" />
<param name="DefaultFrame" value="mainFrame" />
<!-- For other browsers * Windows Media Player -->
<!--[if !IE]> <-->
<object width="180" height="200" type="application/x-mplayer2">
<param name="FileName" value="Server/file" />
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="true" />
<param name="DefaultFrame" value="mainFrame" />
</object>
<!--> <![endif]-->
</object></p>

It works for IE and Gecko based browsers and does validate as xhtml
strict. Not sure about others, but I don't think Opera supports the
object element. There's probably a better method. You
might consider using an html doctype.

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regards,
Jim Roberts

Christopher Richards wrote:

> Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID and
> embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?

What's wrong with:

<object data="myfilm.avi" height="120" width="180" type="video/x-msvideo">
<p>Your browser doesn't appear to support emebedded AVI video files, so
please download <a href="myfilm.avi">my film</a> and view it in your
favourite media player.</p>
<p>Here is a still image from the film to whet your appetite:<br/>
<img src="mystill.png" style="height:120px;width:180px"/></p>
</object>

???

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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact

Toby Inkster wrote:
> What's wrong with:
>
> <object data="myfilm.avi" height="120" width="180" type="video/x-msvideo">
> <p>Your browser doesn't appear to support emebedded AVI video files, so
> please download <a href="myfilm.avi">my film</a> and view it in your
> favourite media player.</p>
> <p>Here is a still image from the film to whet your appetite:<br/>
> <img src="mystill.png" style="height:120px;width:180px"/></p>
> </object>

Missing alt attribute? Using CSS for specifying an image's height and
width instead of the HTML height and width attributes?

"Toby Inkster" <> wrote in message
news .uk...
> Christopher Richards wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to correctly validate an xhtml page with the object ID and
>> embed necessary to implant a windows media player in an html page?
>
> What's wrong with:
>
> <object data="myfilm.avi" height="120" width="180" type="video/x-msvideo">
> <p>Your browser doesn't appear to support emebedded AVI video files, so
> please download <a href="myfilm.avi">my film</a> and view it in your
> favourite media player.</p>
> <p>Here is a still image from the film to whet your appetite:<br/>
> <img src="mystill.png" style="height:120px;width:180px"/></p>
> </object>
Thanks for the response Toby. First, I wouldn't try streaming an AVI or
downloading video. AVI is just no good for the web. It is great format for
editing but not final web output. I wouldn't want the user to take any
action apart from clicking and viewing. The other problem, as I see it, that
Mozilla/Netscape needs that embed tag.

"Christopher Richards" <>
wrote:
>"Toby Inkster" <> wrote in message
>news o.uk...
>>
>> <object data="myfilm.avi" height="120" width="180" type="video/x-msvideo">
>> <p>Your browser doesn't appear to support emebedded AVI video files, so
>> please download <a href="myfilm.avi">my film</a> and view it in your
>> favourite media player.</p>
>> <p>Here is a still image from the film to whet your appetite:<br/>
>> <img src="mystill.png" style="height:120px;width:180px"/></p>
>> </object>
>
>Thanks for the response Toby. First, I wouldn't try streaming an AVI or
>downloading video. AVI is just no good for the web. It is great format for
>editing but not final web output. I wouldn't want the user to take any
>action apart from clicking and viewing.

Then use another format, the above technique will work with other
formats.

>The other problem, as I see it, that
>Mozilla/Netscape needs that embed tag.

Netscape 4 does, but Mozilla/Netscape 6+ certainly do not. You
probably once tried the MS mangled version of <object> rather than the
standards compliant version used above.

Steve

Leif K-Brooks wrote:
> Toby Inkster wrote:
>> What's wrong with:
>>
>> <object data="myfilm.avi" height="120" width="180" type="video/x-msvideo">
>> <p>Your browser doesn't appear to support emebedded AVI video files, so
>> please download <a href="myfilm.avi">my film</a> and view it in your
>> favourite media player.</p>
>> <p>Here is a still image from the film to whet your appetite:<br/>
>> <img src="mystill.png" style="height:120px;width:180px"/></p>
>> </object>
>
> Missing alt attribute?

Correct.

> Using CSS for specifying an image's height and width instead of the
> HTML height and width attributes?

Presentational crap best handled by CSS.

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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact

"Christopher Richards" <>
wrote:

>First, I wouldn't try streaming an AVI or
>downloading video. AVI is just no good for the web. It is great format for
>editing but not final web output.

AVI is a "wrapper" format, as such it can contain any known compression
format. You may be thinking of uncompressed AVI.

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Spartanicus