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Old 01-17-2005, 04:23 AM   #1
Default I have another question


I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.

I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I can
duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be rid
of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so that
it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24" and
only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting it
in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.

<TABLE BORDER="0">
<TR>
<TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif" BORDER="0"
WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD></TD>
</TR>
<TR>
<TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
<TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
<TD></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>

Many thanks in advance,
Kate




Kate
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:24 AM   #2
saz
 
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Default Re: I have another question

In article <41eb3c49$>,
says...
> I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.
>
> I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I can
> duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be rid
> of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so that
> it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24" and
> only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting it
> in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
> explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.
>
> <TABLE BORDER="0">
> <TR>
> <TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif" BORDER="0"
> WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> </TR>
> <TR>
> <TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
> virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
> <TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> </TR>
> </TABLE>
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kate
>
>
>

This is exactly why you should not use tables. Why not use css for the
whole layout? That would solve your problem. Just set up a three
column layout, fixing position of the first and third div.
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:27 AM   #3
saz
 
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Default Re: I have another question

In article <. com>,
says...
> In article <41eb3c49$>,
> says...
> > I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.
> >
> > I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I can
> > duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be rid
> > of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so that
> > it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24" and
> > only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting it
> > in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
> > explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.
> >
> > <TABLE BORDER="0">
> > <TR>
> > <TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif" BORDER="0"
> > WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > </TR>
> > <TR>
> > <TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
> > virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
> > <TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > </TR>
> > </TABLE>
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >

> This is exactly why you should not use tables. Why not use css for the
> whole layout? That would solve your problem. Just set up a three
> column layout, fixing position of the first and third div.
>

I just re-read the original post - a two column layout with CSS would
solve the problem. Fix the width of the menu column (div) and the rest
will fall into place.
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:29 AM   #4
saz
 
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Default Re: I have another question

In article <41eb3e99$>,
says...
>
> "saz" <> wrote in message
> news: ews.com...
> > In article <41eb3c49$>,
> > says...
> > > I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.
> > >
> > > I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I

> can
> > > duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be

> rid
> > > of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so

> that
> > > it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24"

> and
> > > only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting

> it
> > > in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
> > > explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.
> > >
> > > <TABLE BORDER="0">
> > > <TR>
> > > <TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif"

> BORDER="0"
> > > WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
> > > <TD></TD>
> > > <TD></TD>
> > > </TR>
> > > <TR>
> > > <TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
> > > virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
> > > <TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
> > > <TD></TD>
> > > </TR>
> > > </TABLE>
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > > Kate
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > This is exactly why you should not use tables. Why not use css for the
> > whole layout? That would solve your problem. Just set up a three
> > column layout, fixing position of the first and third div.

>
> Is that using position absolute?
>
> Kate
>
>
>

Yes, or in some cases you may want to float:left (or right) in order to
get the text to wrap around it at the bottom. It all depends on the
layout you are trying to achieve.
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:31 AM   #5
Kate
 
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"Kate" <> wrote in message
news:41eb3c49$...
> I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.
>
> I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I

can
> duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be

rid
> of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so

that
> it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24"

and
> only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting

it
> in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
> explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.
>
> <TABLE BORDER="0">
> <TR>
> <TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif" BORDER="0"
> WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> </TR>
> <TR>
> <TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
> virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
> <TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> </TR>
> </TABLE>
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Kate
>
>


Sorry just noticed I placed two CLASS="menu" please ignore the first to
quick to hit the send button..

Kate


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Old 01-17-2005, 04:33 AM   #6
Kate
 
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"saz" <> wrote in message
news: ews.com...
> In article <41eb3c49$>,
> says...
> > I have another question if you don't mind humouring me.
> >
> > I am going to use a simple table for the page layout with css, so that I

can
> > duplicate as near as possible the dreaded framed site I'm so glad to be

rid
> > of. My question is this, is there a way to set the menu column so

that
> > it would stay the same size no matter if the monitor size was 14" or 24"

and
> > only the page content column would enlarge/reduce? I have tried setting

it
> > in px, pt etc but to no avail. I hope you understand what I'm trying to
> > explain, lol... get slightly blurry eyed atm.
> >
> > <TABLE BORDER="0">
> > <TR>
> > <TD COLSPAN="3" WIDTH="100%" CLASS="logo"><IMG SRC="logo.gif"

BORDER="0"
> > WIDTH="67" HEIGHT="64" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=""></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > </TR>
> > <TR>
> > <TD CLASS="menu" WIDTH="75px" CLASS="menu_bar"><!--#include
> > virtual="./menu.shtml" --> </TD>
> > <TD COLSPAN="2" CLASS="page_content"></TD>
> > <TD></TD>
> > </TR>
> > </TABLE>
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >

> This is exactly why you should not use tables. Why not use css for the
> whole layout? That would solve your problem. Just set up a three
> column layout, fixing position of the first and third div.


Is that using position absolute?

Kate


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Old 01-17-2005, 04:37 AM   #7
Kate
 
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"saz" <> wrote in message
news: ews.com...
> In article <41eb3e99$>,
> says...
> > > This is exactly why you should not use tables. Why not use css for

the
> > > whole layout? That would solve your problem. Just set up a three
> > > column layout, fixing position of the first and third div.

> >
> > Is that using position absolute?
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> >

> Yes, or in some cases you may want to float:left (or right) in order to
> get the text to wrap around it at the bottom. It all depends on the
> layout you are trying to achieve.


Great I'll give that a try, many thanks Saz,

Kate


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