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Jan Faerber
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      12-09-2004
Scott wrote:

> Both scripts works fine together.


Yes.

> Now I want to add a third pop-up window to be activated by clicking on a
> different link. If I use the
> second script above and point it to a different url (carol.htm), I am
> stuck using width=550 and height=675,
> which is to large for this window.


You can use:

<a href="http://www.abc.de" target="popup"
onClick="window.open('http://www.abc.de', 'popup',
'height=300,width=300,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes ,location=yes'); return
false"></a>

> Is there a script that will give this third pop-up windows it's own
> dimensions?


<html><head><title>I am the third popup</title>
</head><body onLoad="window.resizeTo(300,300)">
</body></html>

> Thanks!

Don't mention!
> Scott


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Scott
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      12-09-2004

Jan Faerber wrote:

> Scott wrote:
>
> > Both scripts works fine together.

>
> Yes.
>
> > Now I want to add a third pop-up window to be activated by clicking on a
> > different link. If I use the
> > second script above and point it to a different url (carol.htm), I am
> > stuck using width=550 and height=675,
> > which is to large for this window.

>
> You can use:
>
> <a href="http://www.abc.de" target="popup"
> onClick="window.open('http://www.abc.de', 'popup',
> 'height=300,width=300,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes ,location=yes'); return
> false"></a>
>
> > Is there a script that will give this third pop-up windows it's own
> > dimensions?

>
> <html><head><title>I am the third popup</title>
> </head><body onLoad="window.resizeTo(300,300)">
> </body></html>
>
> > Thanks!

> Don't mention!
> > Scott

>
> --
> Jan
>
> http://linux.janfaerber.com


Jan,

Thanks! That's exactly the script I was looking for. I will give it a try.

In the meantime, the link (Message from Carol Lawson) is clickable to another
full-size page.

http://www.uslink.net/~golden/don1.html

I am surprised about the negative feelings about popups that that are voluntary,
rather than automatic. I think it's a good way to give a small snippet of information
to those who want it...without having to leave the main page. To me, it's easier to
navigate.

I also have Mozilla v1.5, which effectively blocks ad popups from sites. I like that
feature. However, it does allow popups that I click on. That seems like a logical
solution...as the first kind of popup is intrusive and annoying, but the second kind
is voluntary. I don't see the conflict.

Thanks,
Scott

 
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Mark Parnell
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      12-09-2004
Previously in alt.html, Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> said:

> I am surprised about the negative feelings about popups that that are voluntary,
> rather than automatic.


But they aren't voluntary. Your visitors don't get a choice whether to
open them in a new window or not. You just force a new window on them
(if their popup blocker allows it).

> I think it's a good way to give a small snippet of information
> to those who want it...without having to leave the main page.


But what about those who don't want it without leaving the main page?
What if they want it in the same browser window? You are taking away
that option.

> To me, it's easier to
> navigate.


So use your browser features and open it in a new window (shift-click in
Mozilla by default). Leave the decision up to your visitors.

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rf
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      12-09-2004
Scott wrote:
>
> In the meantime, the link (Message from Carol Lawson) is clickable to

another
> full-size page.
>
> I am surprised about the negative feelings about popups that that are

voluntary,
> rather than automatic.


You are entirely missing the point. The popup is *not* voluntary. If I click
on that link I *have* to accept the popup. I have no choice. Well I do, I
can simply leave the site.

With a normal link I have the choice of opening the link in my existing
window or *if I want to* opening it in a new, popup if you like, window. I
do this by simply leaning on the shift key when I click the link. I have a
choice.

<aside>
I often do this when, say, using google to search through several sites. I
keep some of them open and parked over there ---> However, I don't often use
the "open in new window" stuff. I simply spawn a new window (with Ctrl N or
whatever), park the new window on that screen over there ---> and carry with
the old window.
</aside>

You, insisting that that link opens a new window have *removed my choice*.
You have made the pupup non-voluntary.

> I think it's a good way to give a small snippet of information
> to those who want it...without having to leave the main page.


I do not, usually.

> To me, it's easier to
> navigate.


Ah, the operative sentence. It is easier for *you*. Well if it's easier for
you then *you* open the link in a new window, by leaning on your shift key.
Leave me, your viewer, with my choice.
>
> I also have Mozilla v1.5, which effectively blocks ad popups from sites.


Unsolicited popups (ads if you like) I never even see. I am not even aware
that they are there. My browser doesn't even follow the link so whoever put
them there will not see a page view from me and will never make any money
from them.

Links that I click on and that insist that I have a new window opened simply
annoy me. They do not appear. The link appears broken. Only when I realize
that the author has forced his/her preferences upon me to I then (if I have
not long gone) once again lean on the shift key when I *for the second time*
click the link. (BTW I have my browsers set to stop *any* popups)

Then I am left with another window on my screen which I have to take
measures with to remove. I can not simply click on the back button on my
mouse, where my thumb already is positioned. I have to menouver my mouse
cursor to the little X and click that instead. A simple thumb twich as
against a rather difficult mouse gesture and click (that X is not very big).
All of this has just distracted my concentration. I usually simply leave the
site.

> I like that
> feature. However, it does allow popups that I click on. That seems like

a logical
> solution...as the first kind of popup is intrusive and annoying, but the

second kind
> is voluntary.


No. It is not voluntary. It is you forcing on me, your viewer, your choice
of where the link opens.

> I don't see the conflict.


Hope the above helps

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Scott
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      12-09-2004


rf wrote:

> Scott wrote:
> >
> > In the meantime, the link (Message from Carol Lawson) is clickable to

> another
> > full-size page.
> >
> > I am surprised about the negative feelings about popups that that are

> voluntary,
> > rather than automatic.

>
> You are entirely missing the point. The popup is *not* voluntary. If I click
> on that link I *have* to accept the popup. I have no choice. Well I do, I
> can simply leave the site.
>
> With a normal link I have the choice of opening the link in my existing
> window or *if I want to* opening it in a new, popup if you like, window. I
> do this by simply leaning on the shift key when I click the link. I have a
> choice.
>
> <aside>
> I often do this when, say, using google to search through several sites. I
> keep some of them open and parked over there ---> However, I don't often use
> the "open in new window" stuff. I simply spawn a new window (with Ctrl N or
> whatever), park the new window on that screen over there ---> and carry with
> the old window.
> </aside>
>
> You, insisting that that link opens a new window have *removed my choice*.
> You have made the pupup non-voluntary.
>
> > I think it's a good way to give a small snippet of information
> > to those who want it...without having to leave the main page.

>
> I do not, usually.
>
> > To me, it's easier to
> > navigate.

>
> Ah, the operative sentence. It is easier for *you*. Well if it's easier for
> you then *you* open the link in a new window, by leaning on your shift key.
> Leave me, your viewer, with my choice.
> >
> > I also have Mozilla v1.5, which effectively blocks ad popups from sites.

>
> Unsolicited popups (ads if you like) I never even see. I am not even aware
> that they are there. My browser doesn't even follow the link so whoever put
> them there will not see a page view from me and will never make any money
> from them.
>
> Links that I click on and that insist that I have a new window opened simply
> annoy me. They do not appear. The link appears broken. Only when I realize
> that the author has forced his/her preferences upon me to I then (if I have
> not long gone) once again lean on the shift key when I *for the second time*
> click the link. (BTW I have my browsers set to stop *any* popups)
>
> Then I am left with another window on my screen which I have to take
> measures with to remove. I can not simply click on the back button on my
> mouse, where my thumb already is positioned. I have to menouver my mouse
> cursor to the little X and click that instead. A simple thumb twich as
> against a rather difficult mouse gesture and click (that X is not very big).
> All of this has just distracted my concentration. I usually simply leave the
> site.
>
> > I like that
> > feature. However, it does allow popups that I click on. That seems like

> a logical
> > solution...as the first kind of popup is intrusive and annoying, but the

> second kind
> > is voluntary.

>
> No. It is not voluntary. It is you forcing on me, your viewer, your choice
> of where the link opens.
>
> > I don't see the conflict.

>
> Hope the above helps
>
> --
> Cheers
> Richard.


Richard,

Okay, I can see your point. My purpose has always been to provide easy navigation for the
visitor. That's why my popup windows have an icon and link at the bottom of the window
that says "Close". But my web philosophy (since I started in 1996) has always been to not
overuse any web gimmicks. So maybe I'll decide that I've used enough of the popups
(I think I have a total of 3 on my site).

Speaking of annoying, although I have IE6, Mozilla, and Netscape 7.0 installed, I still prefer the
user interface of Netscape 4.8 on all my computers. But, every day, more and more sites refuse
to load on Netscape 4.8, and I have to resort to IE....so I'm being forced to surf according to
someone else' preferences. I'm not saying that makes popups alright, but I think it's far less
annoying than some of the inconveniences I put up with.

Scott




 
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Neal
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      12-09-2004
Scott:

> Okay, I can see your point. My purpose has always been to provide easy
> navigation for the
> visitor. That's why my popup windows have an icon and link at the
> bottom of the window
> that says "Close".


Usability studies have shown that popup windows serve only to confuse the
average web user. They don't understand why the Back button won't return
them to the page they were on, so they shut everything down and start
again - maybe skipping your site.

I saw this happen today with a 6th grade Social Studies class doing
research in the computer lab. I watched a student grapple with a popup,
then when i showed them what happened, they were finally able to figure
out what happened.

(The computer teacher was trying to read off a URL to me, and she said
"backslash" - to which I immediately interjected, "Actually, it's
forward-slash" and rattled off the rest of the URL which I already had
anyhow... It's sad when I, a music specialist subbing in for Social
Studies, could be a better computer teacher than this idiot...)

> Speaking of annoying, although I have IE6, Mozilla, and Netscape 7.0
> installed, I still prefer the
> user interface of Netscape 4.8 on all my computers.


You are nuts. See a doctor.
 
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Mark Parnell
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      12-09-2004
Previously in alt.html, Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> said:

> Speaking of annoying, although I have IE6, Mozilla, and Netscape 7.0 installed, I still prefer the
> user interface of Netscape 4.8 on all my computers.


Mozilla/NS7 has the option of using the Classic "theme", which looks the
same as NS4. In fact, that is the default when you first install it.

BTW: It would be appreciated if you could please adjust your newsreader
to wrap at around 78 characters, instead of the 90+ it is currently set
to.

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Scott
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      12-09-2004


Mark Parnell wrote:

> Previously in alt.html, Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> said:
>
> > Speaking of annoying, although I have IE6, Mozilla, and Netscape 7.0 installed, I still prefer the
> > user interface of Netscape 4.8 on all my computers.

>
> Mozilla/NS7 has the option of using the Classic "theme", which looks the
> same as NS4. In fact, that is the default when you first install it.
>
> BTW: It would be appreciated if you could please adjust your newsreader
> to wrap at around 78 characters, instead of the 90+ it is currently set
> to.
>
> --
> Mark Parnell
> http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au


Mark,

I understand, but my issue with Netscape 7.0 is that there's a long delay when clicking on bookmarks
(I have hundreds of them). Netscape 4.8 brign up the bookmark list instantly. That's my only beef
with the newer versions.

And, yes, I have adjusted my word wrap. Thanks for the tip.

Scott

 
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Scott
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      12-09-2004


Neal wrote:

> Scott:
>
> > Okay, I can see your point. My purpose has always been to provide easy
> > navigation for the
> > visitor. That's why my popup windows have an icon and link at the
> > bottom of the window
> > that says "Close".

>
> Usability studies have shown that popup windows serve only to confuse the
> average web user. They don't understand why the Back button won't return
> them to the page they were on, so they shut everything down and start
> again - maybe skipping your site.
>
> I saw this happen today with a 6th grade Social Studies class doing
> research in the computer lab. I watched a student grapple with a popup,
> then when i showed them what happened, they were finally able to figure
> out what happened.
>
> (The computer teacher was trying to read off a URL to me, and she said
> "backslash" - to which I immediately interjected, "Actually, it's
> forward-slash" and rattled off the rest of the URL which I already had
> anyhow... It's sad when I, a music specialist subbing in for Social
> Studies, could be a better computer teacher than this idiot...)
>
> > Speaking of annoying, although I have IE6, Mozilla, and Netscape 7.0
> > installed, I still prefer the
> > user interface of Netscape 4.8 on all my computers.

>
> You are nuts. See a doctor.


Neal,

How can you possible say that I'm "nuts", just because I like an earlier
version of
Netscape? You don't even know me.

Scott

 
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Mark Parnell
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      12-09-2004
Previously in alt.html, Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> said:

> I understand, but my issue with Netscape 7.0 is that there's a long delay when clicking on bookmarks
> (I have hundreds of them). Netscape 4.8 brign up the bookmark list instantly.


I haven't come across that problem, and I have probably a couple of
hundreds of bookmarks. But fair enough.

> That's my only beef
> with the newer versions.


Is Mozilla as bad? NS6/7 is basically just Mozilla with AOL crap anyway.

> And, yes, I have adjusted my word wrap. Thanks for the tip.


No you haven't. :-/ See how much longer your lines above are than mine?
My newsreader wraps my lines at 72 characters. You can generally go up
to about 78 safely. Yours are over 90.

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