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Old 11-29-2004, 04:40 PM   #1
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Hi guys,
check my accessible version of http://www.gizax.it

regards

Daniel


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Old 11-29-2004, 04:51 PM   #2
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<> wrote in message
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>Hi guys,
>check my accessible version of http://www.gizax.it


If you think opening new windows on each new link is "accessible", you have
a lot to learn.


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Old 11-29-2004, 04:59 PM   #3
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wrote:

> Hi guys,
> check my accessible version of hxxp://www.gizax.it


You've multiposted this now to at least three groups. Where would you
like your answers?

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Old 11-29-2004, 04:59 PM   #4
 
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"Karl Core" ha scritto :
| If you think opening new windows on each new link is "accessible", you
have
| a lot to learn.

thank Karl,
but for me is important that XHTML validator do not give errors.
Howewer thx for your opinion.

regards

Daniel
http://www.gizax.it


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Old 11-29-2004, 04:59 PM   #5
Barbara de Zoete
 
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:40:29 GMT, <> wrote:

> check my accessible version of http://www.gizax.it


Are you doing this on purpose because you like to get flamed or something?
_on this post of yours_
- multiposting,
- posting in html instead of plain text,

_on your pages_
- the concept of a splash screen at the so called front af a site sucks
and is not user friendly at all (all I get to see[1] are two links; one
leading to the page I was after presumably and another one for a ticker of
some sort)

What so accessible about it? Though not completely bad [2], I see nothing
special. At least the first page after the splash screen validates. But I
see nothing special that should be labeled 'accessible' as if that is the
utmost purpose of the page markup. Love to see what was the inaccessible
version[3].


[1] Either in Lynx or in any browser without graphics (no images and what
ever more)
[2] Except a few unnecessary <br />'s I spotted and the new windows that
you want my browser to open every time I click a link (which is far from
adding to accessibility)
[2] Not really.

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:10 PM   #6
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:59:56 +0100, Barbara de Zoete
<> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:40:29 GMT, <> wrote:
>
>> <http://www.gizax.it/>

>
> What so accessible about it? Though not completely bad,
>


I take that back:
- fixed width design, waisting a lot of my viewport space so I have to
scroll more than necessary had you designed fluid?
- tiny fonts, so I have to enlarge the whole thing (which in Opera leads
to horizontal scrollbar easily, because, hmm, fixed width design, yes)?
- fixed font sizes, so I couldn't enlarge them if viewed with IE?

So, yes, I can access the site, but you make it damned hard to use it.
Better rethink your priorities.

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:12 PM   #7
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<> wrote in message
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> "Karl Core" ha scritto :
> | If you think opening new windows on each new link is "accessible", you
> have
> | a lot to learn.
>
> thank Karl,
> but for me is important that XHTML validator do not give errors.
> Howewer thx for your opinion.
>


You present your site as "accessible", yet it is not. You are a liar.


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Old 11-29-2004, 06:16 PM   #8
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:12:40 -0500, Karl Core wrote:

>
> <> wrote in message
> news:WzIqd.57690$...
>> "Karl Core" ha scritto :
>> | If you think opening new windows on each new link is "accessible", you
>> have
>> | a lot to learn.
>>
>> thank Karl,
>> but for me is important that XHTML validator do not give errors.
>> Howewer thx for your opinion.
>>

>
> You present your site as "accessible", yet it is not. You are a liar.


well, he is also Italian. Maybe he is just using the wrong English word.
Something like "viewable" or "visible" might be more like what he (or
she?) meant, rather than accessible, which has a very specific meaning in
English and in a Web context.

Just speculating.

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Old 11-29-2004, 06:32 PM   #9
Barbara de Zoete
 
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:16:52 -0500, Jeffrey Silverman
<> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:12:40 -0500, Karl Core wrote:
>
>> You present your site as "accessible", yet it is not. You are a liar.

>
> well, he is also Italian. Maybe he is just using the wrong English word.
> Something like "viewable" or "visible" might be more like what he (or
> she?) meant, rather than accessible, which has a very specific meaning in
> English and in a Web context.
>


Dutch doesn't have the word accessible (or any variant of it), but Italian
certainly does. Look at the righthand bottom corner of his blog. It says
'Il tuo sito è accessibile?' which I immagine means something like 'Is
your site accessible?' Why would the Italian word, derived from Latin, be
anything else than the English word, derived from Latin[1]. In this case I
think he thinks too lightly about accessibility. Either that, or he found
a way to spam newsgroups, that is hard to notice as such.

> Just speculating.
>


Me too

[1] I know, this is not a very scientific argument.

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Old 11-29-2004, 07:06 PM   #10
 
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"Barbara de Zoete" <> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:16:52 -0500, Jeffrey Silverman
> <> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:12:40 -0500, Karl Core wrote:
>>
>>> You present your site as "accessible", yet it is not. You are a liar.

>>
>> well, he is also Italian. Maybe he is just using the wrong English word.
>> Something like "viewable" or "visible" might be more like what he (or
>> she?) meant, rather than accessible, which has a very specific meaning in
>> English and in a Web context.
>>

>
> Dutch doesn't have the word accessible (or any variant of it), but Italian
> certainly does. Look at the righthand bottom corner of his blog. It says
> 'Il tuo sito č accessibile?' which I immagine means something like 'Is
> your site accessible?' Why would the Italian word, derived from Latin, be
> anything else than the English word, derived from Latin[1]. In this case I
> think he thinks too lightly about accessibility. Either that, or he found
> a way to spam newsgroups, that is hard to notice as such.
>
>> Just speculating.
>>

>
> Me too
>
> [1] I know, this is not a very scientific argument.
>
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Mine is not a spam. If you don't accept my website no problems.
I posted my website to check, I accept all kinds of opinions.
If you don't believe this, excuse me but isn't my problem.

best regards

Daniel


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