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WindAndWaves
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      11-17-2004
Hi Folks

I recently got a couple of pages translated in a number of languages (I am
still working on the Russian and the Korean).

The location is www.corstorphinehouse.com ; I was wondering if anyone can
have a look at this to see if the internationalisation is carried out
correctly (e.g. charactersets, language settings). BTW, the Chinese is
traditional Chinese.

Look forward to your comments.


- Nicolaas

PS I know that the page is not valid html, this is to centre it on the page.


 
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Sybren Stuvel
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      11-17-2004
WindAndWaves enlightened us with:
> PS I know that the page is not valid html, this is to centre it on
> the page.


That's not an excuse. As if it's impossible to center a page with CSS.
Tsssk...

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WindAndWaves
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      11-17-2004

"Sybren Stuvel" <> wrote in message
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> WindAndWaves enlightened us with:
> > PS I know that the page is not valid html, this is to centre it on
> > the page.

>
> That's not an excuse. As if it's impossible to center a page with CSS.
> Tsssk...
>
> Sybren
> --
> The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a
> capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
> safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?


I looked into this in minute detail. It is impossible in the way I do
it.... However, if you know the answer then let me know and I will implement
it straight away. I am talking about centering the content (of which we do
not know how large it is) both vertically and horizontally. I look forward
to your reply.

Thank you

-Nicolaas


 
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Kris
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      11-17-2004
In article <rcOmd.3290$>,
"WindAndWaves" <> wrote:

> The location is www.corstorphinehouse.com ; I was wondering if anyone can
> have a look at this to see if the internationalisation is carried out
> correctly (e.g. charactersets, language settings). BTW, the Chinese is
> traditional Chinese.


The korean version displays english for me but the markup says it is
korean (ko).

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WindAndWaves
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      11-17-2004

"Kris" <> wrote in message
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> The korean version displays english for me but the markup says it is
> korean (ko).
>
> --
> Kris
> <> (nl)


Hoi Kristiaan

Yes, I am aware of this, sorry the Korean will be supplied later today.

Thank you.


 
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Sybren Stuvel
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      11-17-2004
WindAndWaves enlightened us with:
> I looked into this in minute detail. It is impossible in the way I
> do it....


Well, that much was clear.

> However, if you know the answer then let me know and I will
> implement it straight away. I am talking about centering the
> content (of which we do not know how large it is) both vertically
> and horizontally.


I do know of a way to center it horizontally. You can probably use the
same technique for vertically, but I'm not sure.

Check out http://student.science.uva.nl/~sstuvel/centered.html

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WindAndWaves
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      11-17-2004

"Sybren Stuvel" <> wrote in message
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> I do know of a way to center it horizontally. You can probably use the
> same technique for vertically, but I'm not sure.
>

[...]

Ja lieve Sybren....

And that is where the problem lies. Almost all of us know how to center a
page horizontally (e.g. <DIV ALIGN=CENTER>), but vertically is a little
trickier. I have actually seen it done with stylesheets, but you end up
making it so complicated that it does not warrant all the extra hassle while
a simple table with HEIGHT="100%" WIDTH="100%" does the trick, nevermind the
tick from W3.


 
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rf
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      11-17-2004
WindAndWaves wrote:

> www.corstorphinehouse.com


> BTW, the Chinese is
> traditional Chinese.


Just how do I get to the chinese version? You give me no textual clues at
all, just a row of flags which are too small to actually see, for instance
is the first one Australia or New Zealand?

And what about an American person. Do you think they would click on a New
Zealand flag to view their version of English?

Question: Does Thailand use the same flag as Hong Kong? The also use
traditional chinese. Mainland China, by the way, uses simplified chinese.

Navigation by flags is a very poor thing to do.

Also, your title attribute is missing for those pictures on the front page.
The later pages have them.

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WindAndWaves
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      11-18-2004

"rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote in message
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> WindAndWaves wrote:
>
> > www.corstorphinehouse.com

>
> > BTW, the Chinese is
> > traditional Chinese.

>
> Just how do I get to the chinese version? You give me no textual clues at
> all, just a row of flags which are too small to actually see, for instance
> is the first one Australia or New Zealand?
>
> And what about an American person. Do you think they would click on a New
> Zealand flag to view their version of English?
>
> Question: Does Thailand use the same flag as Hong Kong? The also use
> traditional chinese. Mainland China, by the way, uses simplified chinese.
>
> Navigation by flags is a very poor thing to do.
>
> Also, your title attribute is missing for those pictures on the front

page.
> The later pages have them.




Hi Richard

Thank you for your comments, the flags seemed a good idea at the time,
because they are universally understood and they fit with a hotel (i.e.
hotels often have flags from different countries outside to welcome their
guests).


 
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rf
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      11-18-2004
WindAndWaves wrote:

> Hi Richard
>
> Thank you for your comments, the flags seemed a good idea at the time,
> because they are universally understood and they fit with a hotel (i.e.
> hotels often have flags from different countries outside to welcome their
> guests).


Check the google archive for discussions on flags and navigation. Invariably
using flags alone is frowned upon.

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