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Spartanicus
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      07-23-2004
Arondelle <> wrote:

>> What type of MPEG video, mpeg1, mpeg2, mpeg4, the MS proprietary variant
>> of mpeg4 aka Windows Media?

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>I built the animation in Corel's Photo-Paint and exported it to an MPG
>file. I was given two choices: MPEG and MPEG(3) [Just like that: I have
>no idea what that means]. I almost died when I saw how big the file
>was, and when I re-opened it, I found that the conversion had inflated
>the number of frames five-fold, from 50 to 250, and and increase the
>frame-rate three-fold. Ouch.
>
>The animated GIF is about a third the size, maybe smaller...


Why then do you want to inflict the video version on your users?

Video compression formats generally don't do a great job with animation
type material due to the jpeg style of compression. It also takes quite
some skill to create a video animation with an appropriate framerate.
Corel Photo-Paint is probably not capable of creating this type of file.

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Arondelle
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      07-23-2004
Spartanicus wrote:
> Why then do you want to inflict the video version on your users?


Well, I *don't* any more. A girl's allowed to change her mind isn't
she? )

> Video compression formats generally don't do a great job with animation
> type material due to the jpeg style of compression. It also takes quite
> some skill to create a video animation with an appropriate framerate.
> Corel Photo-Paint is probably not capable of creating this type of file.


Oh, Photo-Paint is perfectly *capable* of creating this type of file,
it's just not very *good* at it. For some reason, last night I thought
an MPEG would be smaller than a GIF, the way a JPEG is smaller than a
BMP. Silly me.

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      07-23-2004
Arondelle wrote:

> Regardless, I've decided to just convert the animation into a GIF which
> is way smaller and can just be placed like an ordinary image without
> resorting to any mental gymnastics. I can also control the number of
> times it will loop before stopping and have more control over the frame
> rate.
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> B-)
>
> Arondelle


It's an illusion, you dont have any control Many browsers in high
security mode do NOT animate GIFs that have animation in them, they just
display the first frame

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      07-24-2004
SpaceGirl wrote:
> Arondelle wrote:
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>> Regardless, I've decided to just convert the animation into a GIF
>> which is way smaller and can just be placed like an ordinary image
>> without resorting to any mental gymnastics. I can also control the
>> number of times it will loop before stopping and have more control
>> over the frame rate.


> It's an illusion, you dont have any control Many browsers in high
> security mode do NOT animate GIFs that have animation in them, they just
> display the first frame


What the userd do is their own affair. What I *can* control is what I
put into the GIF. The MPEG creator in Photo-Paint doesn't allow me to
specify how many time the video should loop. One time through and
that's all. With the GIF format I can have no loop, 1 loop, 5 loops,
continuous loops -- or whatever... This particular GIF will have 5
loops which should be plenty of time to see the full effect.

Meanwhile, the persons I'm targeting the page at are specifically
looking for the animation. It wouldn't make sense for them to have shut
off their ability to play animations and then go looking for them, would it?

Remember to make your pages for your target audience -- try to please
all people all of the time, and you end up pleasing no one most of the time.

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