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My current web page design consists of a form with the classical
layout of an index column on the left and a wide contents column on
the right. I would like to change it to a non-form design but I don't
know how. Do I need to repeat the left-side index code in every page?
I would appreciate some advice and perhaps a link to a clear sample
code.

Steve

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:20:55 GMT, Cogito <> declared
in alt.html:

> My current web page design consists of a form with the classical

Your entire site is a form?

> layout of an index column on the left and a wide contents column on
> the right. I would like to change it to a non-form design but I don't

Non-*frames* design?

> know how. Do I need to repeat the left-side index code in every page?

You can if you really want to, but there are much easier alternatives.
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Incl...ile_in_another

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Oooops, I mean it's a frame not a form.



On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:25:20 +1000, Mark Parnell
<> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:20:55 GMT, Cogito <> declared
>in alt.html:
>
>> My current web page design consists of a form with the classical
>
>Your entire site is a form?
>
>> layout of an index column on the left and a wide contents column on
>> the right. I would like to change it to a non-form design but I don't
>
>Non-*frames* design?
>
>> know how. Do I need to repeat the left-side index code in every page?
>
>You can if you really want to, but there are much easier alternatives.
>http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Incl...ile_in_another

Cogito wrote:

> My current web page design consists of a form with the classical
> layout of an index column on the left and a wide contents column on
> the right. I would like to change it to a non-form design but I don't
> know how. Do I need to repeat the left-side index code in every page?
> I would appreciate some advice and perhaps a link to a clear sample
> code.
>
> Steve

I agree with Mark - includes are the way to go. If you need scrolling
within a specific area of the page, you can use a <div...> (aka 'layer')
with the CSS overflow property set to 'auto' and specify the size of the
area. Scrollbars will automatically be displayed. Search engines dont
choke on these scrolling divs, unlike frames.

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:25:20 +1000, Mark Parnell
<> wrote:

>You can if you really want to, but there are much easier alternatives.
>http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Incl...ile_in_another

Thanks for your reply. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand
words. With HTML, an example is worth a thousand words. To spare me
reading endless pages would you have a simple example of a page with
an index on the left and contents on the right?

Cogito wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:25:20 +1000, Mark Parnell
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>You can if you really want to, but there are much easier alternatives.
>>http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Incl...ile_in_another
>
>
> Thanks for your reply. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand
> words. With HTML, an example is worth a thousand words. To spare me
> reading endless pages would you have a simple example of a page with
> an index on the left and contents on the right?
>
>

www.subhuman.net

that's one of our play sites... the entire site is frame free (except
for two, but they're not important). The menus are NOT part of the page.
Neither is the big banner across the top, the menu on the right, the top
and tail of the HTML source... all those elements are 'added' to the
page by our server via includes, meaning when I add a new page to the
site it take minutes and will automatically have all the display elements.

Also www.garbage.com, which is a commercial site. Not traditional layout
and using iframes, however none of the frames really exist - they are
generated by scripts in include files which are then assembled into the
final page before being sent to a users browser.

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Cogito wrote:

> My current web page design consists of a form with the classical
> layout of an index column on the left and a wide contents column on
> the right. I would like to change it to a non-form design but I don't
> know how. Do I need to repeat the left-side index code in every page?
> I would appreciate some advice and perhaps a link to a clear sample
> code.

The simplest, smallest script I know of for preprocessing is the mcat.pl
script, part of the small download package at

http://www.mbstevens.com/preprocessor/index.html

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In article <>,
says...
> www.subhuman.net

Man I find those pop-up "tool hints" on the menu to be really
annoying.
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Webcastmaker wrote:
> In article <>,
> says...
>
>>www.subhuman.net
>
>
> Man I find those pop-up "tool hints" on the menu to be really
> annoying.

How so?

The site is being replaced this month. We have something VERY sexy on
the way. There are no floating panels (probably wont be added) but I'm
curious why you dont like them?

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x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

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SpaceGirl schrieb:
> Webcastmaker wrote:
>
>> In article <>,
>> says...
>>
>>> www.subhuman.net
>>
> The site is being replaced this month. We have something VERY sexy on
> the way.

I get it. ASP means Always Sexy Programmer.


Matthias