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In article <kristiaan->,
erlands says...
> Lesson of today: Google is a purist.

Lesson 2. So what, it does not change the REALITY of javascript Steve
mentioned.

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In article <Xns94A125402CC8Aebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4>,
says...
> It is simply a *major* usability gaffe for a site to redirect a link from a
> search engine results page to a page that doesn't contain what the user was
> searching for and doesn't match the excerpt displayed by the search engine.
> Users get *really* ****ed off when that happens.

The OP needs to redirect to the correct page in the frameset. It is just
as easy to direct to the appropriate page in the appropriate frame.

Their mistake was not frames or the use of javascript, their mistake was
where they end up redirecting you to.

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Whitecrest <> wrote in
news::

> In article <Xns94A125402CC8Aebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4>,
> says...

> The OP needs to redirect to the correct page in the frameset. It is
> just as easy to direct to the appropriate page in the appropriate
> frame.

But that requires one frameset page for each content page. If they have to
be generated statically, that means two files need to be maintained for
each content page. If they're generated dynamically as I proposed, then
you only need the files for the content pages and one script file that can
generate all the framesets. And you can serve each request in one step
rather than two since you don't need to do a redirect.

In article <>,
Whitecrest <> wrote:

> > Lesson of today: Google is a purist.
>
> Lesson 2. So what, it does not change the REALITY of javascript Steve
> mentioned.

It changes the usefulness; you can ignore a minority group of purists,
but you cannot ignore Google.

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Kris wrote in message ...
> Google is a purist.

Not *that* pure, as sites using javascript still come up well in search
results. <grin>

Thanks for the replies.

I will solve the problem by programming a pregeneration program, which
merges the frames onto a table.

Thanks for that tip, someone which name i don't remember.

- Martin

Martin Johansen wrote:
> I will solve the problem by programming a pregeneration program, which
> merges the frames onto a table.

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts

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In article <Xns94A13190B4E5ebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4>,
says...
> > The OP needs to redirect to the correct page in the frameset. It is
> > just as easy to direct to the appropriate page in the appropriate
> > frame.
> But that requires one frameset page for each content page.....

No, create a default.asp (php, what ever) that has the frame set. that
looks for a page "id" (or url) in the query string. No ID or URL, then
load the default page

When the person book marks a content page, and returns to it later,
there is some nasty javascript that says "if there is not a parent
frame, then go to my default page, and pass this ID there. The parent
then page loads the frameset with the correct content.

It is done all the time to solve this issue.

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In article <kristiaan->,
erlands says...
> > > Lesson of today: Google is a purist.
> > Lesson 2. So what, it does not change the REALITY of javascript Steve
> > mentioned.
> It changes the usefulness; you can ignore a minority group of purists,
> but you cannot ignore Google.

Again, so what. Do we all need to do what google does? Is Google the
king of all that is right?

No.

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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:31:25 -0500, Whitecrest <>
declared in alt.html:

> Again, so what. Do we all need to do what google does? Is Google the
> king of all that is right?

He is talking about Googlebot, not the web site.

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