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Old 02-24-2004, 05:55 PM   #1
Default HTML email and images


Hello all!

We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and using
MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of the
images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.

We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would like
them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.

Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should purchase?

Thank you,

- J




Jay
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Old 02-24-2004, 06:10 PM   #2
Steve R.
 
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Jay wrote in message ...
> We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
> format


A lot of people nowadays won't accept incoming HTML emails because they are
mostly SPAM orientated.

> We are hosting the images on our web server and using
> MS Outlook to send the email.


MS Outlook often messes things up. Better to use Outlook Express if you
really have to.

> However, when we send the email a copy of the
> images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.


'Cos your using MS Outlook.

> We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would
> like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
> attachments.


Which ever way you send them people can still copy them, as soon as they
can see them on their browsers.


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Old 02-24-2004, 06:30 PM   #3
Jay
 
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"Steve R." <stevie_ritchie(NOSPAM)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jay wrote in message ...
> > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
> > format

>
> A lot of people nowadays won't accept incoming HTML emails because they

are
> mostly SPAM orientated.


The only way a person would receive it is if they subscribed. There is also
a text-only version for those who do not accept HTML emails though.

> > We are hosting the images on our web server and using
> > MS Outlook to send the email.

>
> MS Outlook often messes things up. Better to use Outlook Express if you
> really have to.
>
> > However, when we send the email a copy of the
> > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.

>
> 'Cos your using MS Outlook.
>
> > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would
> > like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
> > attachments.

>
> Which ever way you send them people can still copy them, as soon as they
> can see them on their browsers.


That's not an issue. People can do whatever they want with the images We
just don't want them to come as attachments.

I'll give your MS Outlook Express suggestion a try and see how that works.

Thanks

- J


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Old 02-24-2004, 06:38 PM   #4
Augustus
 
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"Jay" <> wrote in message
news:%dM_b.53$...
> Hello all!
>
> We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
> that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

using
> MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of

the
> images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
>
> We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would

like
> them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
>
> Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should purchase?


Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
either case it would send the image as an attachment

What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full URL
of the image you want to include, IE:

<img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
alt="ABC Corporation Logo">

That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
attachment


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Old 02-24-2004, 06:55 PM   #5
Steve R.
 
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Augustus wrote in message ...
> Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
> either case it would send the image as an attachment.


Emails sent by MS Outlook *do* make things worse.

Images would only be sent as an attachment if the person requests *Plain
Text* emails.

If an HTML (Rich Text) email is generated using Outlook Express the images
can be embedded into the email and received still embedded in that that
email provided the recipient has enabled HTML emails.

For some odd reason Rich-Text emails generated in MS Outlook mess up this
process.

I have convinced several people who previously used MS Outlook to abandon
that method, in favour of using Outlook Express when sending HTML emails,
as they often did not work when composed in MS Outlook.

> What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

URL
> of the image you want to include, IE:
> That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
> attachment.


Not if the person requests Plain Text emails only.


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Old 02-24-2004, 07:30 PM   #6
Jay
 
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"Augustus" <> wrote in message
news:c1g5ps$1i9k2e$...
>
> "Jay" <> wrote in message
> news:%dM_b.53$...
> > Hello all!
> >
> > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML

format
> > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

> using
> > MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy of

> the
> > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
> >
> > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we would

> like
> > them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
> >
> > Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should

purchase?
>
> Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
> either case it would send the image as an attachment


Actually, we tried with Outlook Express and it does not send the images as
an attachment.

> What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

URL
> of the image you want to include, IE:
>
> <img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
> alt="ABC Corporation Logo">


I stated in my original post that we are hosting the images on our web
server. We already specify the full URL of the image. MS Outlook still
attaches a copy of that image as an attachment while MS Outlook Express does
not.

> That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
> attachment


It sends as an attachment.

Have you tried any of your suggestions?


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Old 02-24-2004, 08:08 PM   #7
Augustus
 
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"Jay" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Augustus" <> wrote in message
> news:c1g5ps$1i9k2e$...
> >
> > "Jay" <> wrote in message
> > news:%dM_b.53$...
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > > We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML

> format
> > > that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and

> > using
> > > MS Outlook to send the email. However, when we send the email a copy

of
> > the
> > > images is attached and sent to each person as attachments.
> > >
> > > We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we

would
> > like
> > > them to load from the web server instead of being sent as attachments.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to do this? Perhaps some software that we should

> purchase?
> >
> > Pretty much disregard the reply about Outlook vs Outlook Express... in
> > either case it would send the image as an attachment

>
> Actually, we tried with Outlook Express and it does not send the images as
> an attachment.
>
> > What you want to do is: In your html email you want to specify the full

> URL
> > of the image you want to include, IE:
> >
> > <img src="http://www.your-server-name-here.com/images/image-to-show.gif"
> > alt="ABC Corporation Logo">

>
> I stated in my original post that we are hosting the images on our web
> server. We already specify the full URL of the image. MS Outlook still
> attaches a copy of that image as an attachment while MS Outlook Express

does
> not.
>
> > That will include the image in your HTML email, but won't send it as an
> > attachment

>
> It sends as an attachment.
>
> Have you tried any of your suggestions?


Yes

What you are probably doing here is using either program (Outlook or Outlook
Express) to create the emails to send out?

If you are using Outlook Express and use the INSERT >> IMAGE...command for
an image, the image is encoded into message (similar to how a binary file is
included into a usenet message)

Encoding the image into the email does work, but it also increases the
emails size by the size of the image, while providing a link such as <img
src="http://www.mysite.com/image/image.jpg"> only increases the emails size
by a couple of bytes (when the email is viewed it will download the image
from your server)

If you are using Outlook Express, to edit the HTML source of an email open
the email message (or create a new one) and then under VIEW check "SOURCE
EDIT" and that will add 3 tabs to the bottom of your email

If you click on the SOURCE tab you can see the HTML source for the image,
where you can effectively write your email up as a web page and include
coding like <img src="http://www.mysite.com/image/image.jpg">




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Old 02-24-2004, 10:09 PM   #8
Disco Octopus
 
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Jay wrote:

> We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we
> would like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
> attachments.



I havent done this, but you could try to create a "theme" that has
background images. I am not sure if Outlook sends these backgrounds as
attachments, maybe play around with something like that.


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Old 02-25-2004, 05:15 AM   #9
Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
 
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> We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML
> format that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web


Both html emails and OE are bad (especialy OE), but if You realy must,

> We don't have any concerns about people copying our images but we
> would like them to load from the web server instead of being sent as
> attachments.


....just create a .html file with <imm src="http://your-server/......"

Or You can write a PHP script (or other server-side) to automaticly compose
and send scripts for You.

In fact I might try to help (as a small job) but this is not a toppic for
newsgroup so please email me if You wish.

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Old 02-25-2004, 05:21 AM   #10
Mark Parnell
 
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:55:07 GMT, "Jay" <> declared in
alt.html:

> We would like to send an email newsletter to subscribers in an HTML format
> that includes images. We are hosting the images on our web server and using


I find that really annoying, personally. I often download my email then
read it later, when offline. If the images are only on the server, I
keep getting messages telling me it can't get them and do I want to
connect. Very annoying.

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