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02-24-2004, 02:15 PM
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Borderless frames
Don't hit me, don't kill me.
But how do I create frames that don't have (vissible) borders, and is also good HTML? John Smith |
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02-24-2004, 02:23 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
John Smith wrote in message ...
> But how do I create frames that don't have (visible) borders, > and is also good HTML? Do you *really* mean frames as in ... http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ or are you referring to tables as in ... http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/test.htm |
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02-24-2004, 02:58 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
I really mean frames as in <frameset><frame> etc.
so I meant: http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ but without the white line. "Steve R." <stevie_ritchie(NOSPAM)@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht > John Smith wrote in message ... > > But how do I create frames that don't have (visible) borders, > > and is also good HTML? > > Do you *really* mean frames as in ... > http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ > > or are you referring to tables as in ... > http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/test.htm > > |
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02-24-2004, 03:16 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
John Smith wrote in message ...
> I really mean frames as in <frameset><frame> > so I meant: http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ > but without the white line. Never figured out a way to get rid of that white line, so I normally use a very pale background to the lower frame, so it's barely noticeable, or create a more obvious border with something like this ... <HTML><HEAD> <TITLE></TITLE> </HEAD> <FRAMESET frameborder=10 FRAMEMARGIN="0" rows="78,98%"> <FRAME name=HEADER noResize src="header.htm" scrolling="no" target="_self" marginwidth="12" marginheight="10"> <FRAME name=MAIN src="home.htm" scrolling="auto" target="_self" marginwidth="12" marginheight="0" target="_MAIN"> </frameset> </HTML> |
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02-24-2004, 03:22 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
Steve R. wrote: > John Smith wrote in message ... > >>I really mean frames as in <frameset><frame> >>so I meant: http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ >>but without the white line. > > Never figured out a way to get rid of that white line, so I normally use a > very pale background to the lower frame, so it's barely noticeable, or > create a more obvious border with something like this ... > > <HTML><HEAD> > <TITLE></TITLE> > </HEAD> > <FRAMESET frameborder=10 FRAMEMARGIN="0" rows="78,98%"> > <FRAME name=HEADER noResize src="header.htm" scrolling="no" target="_self" > marginwidth="12" marginheight="10"> > <FRAME name=MAIN src="home.htm" scrolling="auto" target="_self" > marginwidth="12" marginheight="0" target="_MAIN"> > </frameset> > </HTML> To get rid of the white lines, either use border="0" or framespacing="0" on the framesets. Not valid though, but works. Obviously in combination with frameborder="0" and marginwidth and marginheight set to "0" on each frame as well. -- Els Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito. - Renato Russo - |
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02-24-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
"Els" <> schreef in bericht
news:403b6b9b$0$41750$ i.nl... > > > Steve R. wrote: > > > John Smith wrote in message ... > > > >>I really mean frames as in <frameset><frame> > >>so I meant: http://www.myby.myby.co.uk/temp/ > >>but without the white line. > > > > Never figured out a way to get rid of that white line, so I normally use a > > very pale background to the lower frame, so it's barely noticeable, or > > create a more obvious border with something like this ... > > > > <HTML><HEAD> > > <TITLE></TITLE> > > </HEAD> > > <FRAMESET frameborder=10 FRAMEMARGIN="0" rows="78,98%"> > > <FRAME name=HEADER noResize src="header.htm" scrolling="no" target="_self" > > marginwidth="12" marginheight="10"> > > <FRAME name=MAIN src="home.htm" scrolling="auto" target="_self" > > marginwidth="12" marginheight="0" target="_MAIN"> > > </frameset> > > </HTML> > > To get rid of the white lines, either use border="0" or > framespacing="0" on the framesets. Not valid though, but > works. Obviously in combination with frameborder="0" and > marginwidth and marginheight set to "0" on each frame as well. > > > -- > Els > > Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito. > - Renato Russo - > This is the solution I currently use, but as you said it's not valid HTML. |
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02-24-2004, 06:27 PM
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Re: Borderless frames
John Smith wrote:
> Don't hit me, don't kill me. > > But how do I create frames that don't have (vissible) borders, and is also > good HTML? IIRC, there is no way, with valid HTML, to remove the visible borders between frames in most[1] browsers. I'd suggest seeking an alternative to the frames. [1] Perhaps all. -- David Dorward <http://dorward.me.uk/> |
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02-25-2004, 04:13 AM
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Re: Borderless frames
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:15:07 +0100, "John Smith" <>
declared in alt.html: > Don't hit me, don't kill me. Only because you asked. > But how do I create frames that don't have (vissible) borders, and is also > good HTML? But frames _aren't_ good HTML. http://html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil http://homepage.ntlworld.com/l_vajzo...eb/frames.html http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/ http://www.google.com/webmasters/2.html (see under "Your page uses frames") -- Mark Parnell http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au |
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02-26-2004, 12:14 AM
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Re: Borderless frames
In article <urflevghbucp.f3t0jcm66b1d$.>,
says... > > But how do I create frames that don't have (vissible) borders, and is also > > good HTML? > But frames _aren't_ good HTML. They are completely valid GOOD html -- Whitecrest Entertainment www.whitecrestent.com |
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02-26-2004, 12:28 AM
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Re: Borderless frames
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 19:14:48 -0500, Whitecrest <>
declared in alt.html: > In article <urflevghbucp.f3t0jcm66b1d$.>, > says... >> But frames _aren't_ good HTML. > > They are completely valid GOOD html Valid, yes (assuming you are using a frameset doctype), but good, no. Big difference. -- Mark Parnell http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au |
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