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Old 12-02-2003, 01:05 AM   #1
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I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but I'm sure
you will direct me to the right place. If I cut out a part of a copyright
picture and add it to my own creation to put on my website, will I be
violating the copyright law even if the picture I made is different from the
picture that I took from the coptyrighted part from?




Morris
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Old 12-02-2003, 01:20 AM   #2
brucie
 
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in post <news:BzRyb.33216$. com>
Morris said:

> I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question


it is not

> If I cut out a part of a copyright picture and add it to my own
> creation to put on my website, will I be violating the copyright law
> even if the picture I made is different from the picture that I took
> from the coptyrighted part from?


what made you think asking in a newsgroup would be a good idea? the best
and only advice is to talk to your lawyer.

while you're waiting for the appointment with your lawyer you may want
to google on "derivative works" for a bit of background information.

http://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=derivative+works

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02/December/2003 11:14:27 am kilo
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Old 12-02-2003, 02:14 AM   #3
Morris
 
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Thanks for the nice friendly answer. I chose a newsgroup because this deals
with a web site. I'm sure others would be interested in the same
information.
"brucie" <> wrote in message
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> in post <news:BzRyb.33216$. com>
> Morris said:
>
> > I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question

>
> it is not
>
> > If I cut out a part of a copyright picture and add it to my own
> > creation to put on my website, will I be violating the copyright law
> > even if the picture I made is different from the picture that I took
> > from the coptyrighted part from?

>
> what made you think asking in a newsgroup would be a good idea? the best
> and only advice is to talk to your lawyer.
>
> while you're waiting for the appointment with your lawyer you may want
> to google on "derivative works" for a bit of background information.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=derivative+works
>
> --
> brucie
> 02/December/2003 11:14:27 am kilo



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Old 12-02-2003, 02:29 AM   #4
Morris
 
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I found my answer at the address you sent me to. Thank you.
"brucie" <> wrote in message
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> in post <news:BzRyb.33216$. com>
> Morris said:
>
> > I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question

>
> it is not
>
> > If I cut out a part of a copyright picture and add it to my own
> > creation to put on my website, will I be violating the copyright law
> > even if the picture I made is different from the picture that I took
> > from the coptyrighted part from?

>
> what made you think asking in a newsgroup would be a good idea? the best
> and only advice is to talk to your lawyer.
>
> while you're waiting for the appointment with your lawyer you may want
> to google on "derivative works" for a bit of background information.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=derivative+works
>
> --
> brucie
> 02/December/2003 11:14:27 am kilo



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Old 12-02-2003, 02:56 AM   #5
brucie
 
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in post <news:XzSyb.36765$ .com>
Morris said:

> Thanks for the nice friendly answer.


you're welcome. i'm always friendly no matter how stupid questions are.

please don't toppost

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02/December/2003 12:54:59 pm kilo
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:34 AM   #6
Richard
 
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Morris! wrote:

> I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but I'm sure
> you will direct me to the right place. If I cut out a part of a copyright
> picture and add it to my own creation to put on my website, will I be
> violating the copyright law even if the picture I made is different from
> the picture that I took from the coptyrighted part from?


Depends on the nature of the cut out part. If it is of a building, or a
scene of nature, that is public domain, fair use, then the copyright owner
can't do a damn about it.
If the cut out is that of a person and the person can be identified, then
yes, you could be in trouble.



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Old 12-02-2003, 05:10 AM   #7
Joel Shepherd
 
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Richard wrote:
> Morris! wrote:
>
>> I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but
>> I'm sure you will direct me to the right place. If I cut out a
>> part of a copyright picture and add it to my own creation to put
>> on my website, will I be violating the copyright law even if the
>> picture I made is different from the picture that I took from the
>> coptyrighted part from?

>
> Depends on the nature of the cut out part. If it is of a building,
> or a scene of nature, that is public domain, fair use, then the
> copyright owner can't do a damn about it.


I smell BS. Richard, are you a lawyer?

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Old 12-02-2003, 06:25 AM   #8
Hywel Jenkins
 
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In article <>, anonymous@127.000 says...
> Morris! wrote:
>
> > I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but I'm sure
> > you will direct me to the right place. If I cut out a part of a copyright
> > picture and add it to my own creation to put on my website, will I be
> > violating the copyright law even if the picture I made is different from
> > the picture that I took from the coptyrighted part from?

>
> Depends on the nature of the cut out part. If it is of a building, or a
> scene of nature, that is public domain, fair use, then the copyright owner
> can't do a damn about it.


Rubbish. If I take a photo of you *I* own the copyright. The same is
that case with buildings or scenes of nature. It's the image that's
copyrighted, not what's in it.

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Old 12-02-2003, 07:46 AM   #9
Eric Bohlman
 
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote in
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> Depends on the nature of the cut out part. If it is of a building, or
> a scene of nature, that is public domain, fair use, then the copyright
> owner can't do a damn about it.


That has nothing to do with it. Entire photographs are almost *never* in
the public domain, regardless of their subject. Rules for fair use vary
from country to country, but again they aren't based on subject matter.

> If the cut out is that of a person and the person can be identified,
> then yes, you could be in trouble.


That's a completely different issue from copyright. Even if you do have
permission from the copyright holder to use a photo, you may *also* need
permission from the subject to use his likeness.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:05 AM   #10
Sid Ismail
 
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:15 GMT, "Morris" <> wrote:

: Thanks for the nice friendly answer. I chose a newsgroup because this deals
: with a web site. I'm sure others would be interested in the same
: information.


Others here all ex-lawyers.

Sid

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