Peabody wrote:
> Let me confess up front that I am not an html author, but only a
> lowly surfer dude. But I thought someone here might have an answer
> for me.
>
> Last week I was running IE 5.01 SP2. I have since "upgraded" to IE
> 5.5 SP2. In the process I have lost the ability to Maximize certain
> browser windows. So, a window comes up that's fixed in pixel size,
> and at 800x600 it's too big so you can't see the whole window, but
> at 1024x768 it's a good bit smaller than the screen, and therefore
> more difficult to see the fine print. All attempts to fit it to the
> screen are fruitless because Maximize is greyed out.
>
> A good example is at:
>
> http://www.chatpal.com
>
> Go there, pull down the "Flash Chat" menu, and select a room. A new
> window will come up with an error message about having to register,
> but the point is that that window can't be maximized in IE 5.5 or
> 6.0, but I could do that in 5.01.
>
> After much searching I've found out why:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;211068
>
> Basically, IE 5.01 was defective - it ignored "resizable=no". Now,
> Bill has "fixed" it. I just hate it when that happens.
>
Very interesting. At one point, Mozilla had the same issue:
Bug 87972: window.open() with 'resizable=no' is still resizable
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87972
> In another thread here with the subject "display maximized" a number
> of posters asserted that authors should not be trying to force
> viewers to a certain window size, or take choices away from them. I
> agree with that, so I thought I would try to find a way to restore
> the 5.01 Maximize functionality
It's not so much the maximize functionality as the resizability of a window.
and defeat the unjustified attempts
> of certain authors to tell me wtf to do with my window size.
>
Most of the time, web designers are not aware of doing so or they don't
deliberately try to annoy users by preventing the resizing of the
window. Some just set width and height of the new window, try it and
feel it's the correct size **on their machine** and assume everything is
perfect. What they ignore is that users have different screen
resolution, also different default font-sizes and also that once a
single windowFeature is declared in the window.open call, all other
windowFeatures are turn off.
"When the sFeatures parameter is specified, the features that are not
defined in the parameter are disabled. Therefore, when using the
sFeatures parameter, it is necessary to enable all the features that
are to be included in the new window."
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...ods/open_0.asp
> So I'm hoping someone here will have some ideas about how to do
> this. My wayback machine is broken, so I can't go back to 5.01, but
> I am very handy with registry entries (98SE) and know how to use a
> hex editor.
>
> Another possibility is that F11 did seem to work, sorta, but the top
> of the previous window overlay the new window, and that's no good.
>
> And, yes, I have sent email to the site in question, but have
> received no response. But beyond that, I need a general fix for
> this. All mankind needs a general fix for this. I just don't want
> you guys disabling my Maximize button.
>
> Hoping someone here will have a fix, but thanks for reading this far
> anyway.
>
> Peabody
>
Here's my recommendation. Just like Toby answered you, use an
alternative browser.
Opera 7.21 ignores "resizable=no" all the time.
K-meleon 0.8 build 834 is even faster than Opera 7.21, is based on
Mozilla 1.5, is highly configurable and has a simple setting forcing all
windows to be resizable all the time.
Mozilla-based browsers have a resizing grippy at the bottom-right corner
of the window, in the status bar; there are still a few issues with that
(what if the statusbar is turned off; if the window is shorter than
134px [or outerHeight < 178px] or narrower than 316px, then that grippy
is not accessible, not reachable).
In the user.js file, you can add this line:
user_pref("dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizab le", true);
I filed a bugfile on making all windows resizable all the time, always,
just like Opera 7.x. Make all windows resizable with no resizing grippy,
no proxomitron, no user setting to do, no advanced pref setting to find
and select, no user.js file to edit, no email to send to the webmaster,
no searching and reading to do in knowledgebase site or bugfiles
database, no irritation anymore, no posting in newsgroup to do anymore,
no non-sensical efforts to do to restore normal standard usability of a
webpage.
Create an account
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/createaccount.cgi
and vote for this:
Bug 177838: Make all popup windows resizable, ignoring resizable=no
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177838
As Toby said, use proxomitron for MSIE: it will "sterilize" all these
"resizable=no" or windowFeatures string list missing "resizable=yes".
Still need more reading on this?
Bug 27795: Add resizing grippy to bottom-right of Windows windows
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27795#c44
Bug 176304: Option to disallow scripts from hiding toolbars
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176304#c14 parg. 2
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