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shank wrote:

> Where can I find any specials rules or cautions when creating HTML emails?

http://mailformat.dan.info/body/html.html

> I've been sending them for over a year with very few problems while "not"
> using CSS. For the first time today I set an email up with CSS, embedded and
> inline styles. It validated without flaw using www.w3.org. I used
> transitional 4.01. I send my campaign out and receive the email in my own
> outlook express - and it's trashed! Some of the style attributes were just
> ignored. Another thing I noticed is that in code class="xyz" had been
> converted to class=xyz. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.

You don't mention what program you used to *send* the mail; perhaps the
outbound program was responsible for "mangling" your code before it went
out?

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shank wrote:

>Where can I find any specials rules or cautions when creating HTML emails?
>
> ...
>
Rule one: don't send them to me. The second I see HTML starting to display
when I open an email, I hit "stop" in a hurry and do a virus scan soon
after.
If someone wants me to have the _opportunity_ to see something generated
with HTML, they can send me an email with a link in it, which I might click
on if I really trust that person.

Rule two: forget rule one if you operate in a closed community where
everyone trusts everyone else and is scrupulous about not passing on any
messages from outside.

Anthony Buckland wrote:
> shank wrote:
>
>> Where can I find any specials rules or cautions when creating HTML
>> emails?
>>
>> ...
>>
> Rule one: don't send them to me. The second I see HTML starting to
> display when I open an email, I hit "stop" in a hurry and do a virus
> scan soon after.


Doesn't your mail client have the option to display all incoming as plain
text?

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shank wrote:
> using CSS. For the first time today I set an email up with CSS, embedded and
> inline styles. It validated without flaw using www.w3.org. I used
> transitional 4.01. I send my campaign out and receive the email in my own
> outlook express - and it's trashed! Some of the style attributes were just
> ignored. Another thing I noticed is that in code class="xyz" had been
> converted to class=xyz. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.

I occasionally highlight a web page and paste it into OE and email it to
myself (I use both Mozilla Mail and OE btw). I have found recently
though that it does not take into account CSS at all so on CSS sites I
lose the formating which is a real downer.

regards,
Ben

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Ben wrote:
>
> I occasionally highlight a web page and paste it into OE and email it
> to myself (I use both Mozilla Mail and OE btw). I have found recently
> though that it does not take into account CSS at all so on CSS sites I
> lose the formating which is a real downer.
>

that's the cut/paste which is failing to 'get' the css - not your mail
client(s)

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William Tasso wrote:
> Ben wrote:
>
>>I occasionally highlight a web page and paste it into OE and email it
>>to myself (I use both Mozilla Mail and OE btw). I have found recently
>>though that it does not take into account CSS at all so on CSS sites I
>>lose the formating which is a real downer.
>>
>
>
> that's the cut/paste which is failing to 'get' the css - not your mail
> client(s)
>

IE is pretty good at cutting and then pasting into OE which is not the
case with Mozilla Mail and Browser. But IE has not been set up for
copying pages with CSS unfortunately.

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:46:05 GMT, "shank" <>
wrote:

>Where can I find any specials rules or cautions when creating HTML emails?
>
>I've been sending them for over a year with very few problems while "not"
>using CSS. For the first time today I set an email up with CSS, embedded and
>inline styles. It validated without flaw using www.w3.org. I used
>transitional 4.01. I send my campaign out and receive the email in my own
>outlook express - and it's trashed! Some of the style attributes were just
>ignored. Another thing I noticed is that in code class="xyz" had been
>converted to class=xyz. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.
>
>thanks
>
EVERYBODY I know, family, friends, work, you name it, has HTML turned
off. When you spammers send email, the ones that get by the filters
get added to the kill filter list. Screw you people. You are the
reason what could have been a nice thing has fallen into disuse.
-
Andy

"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
- (Calvin and Hobbes) (this email addy is never checked...)

Ben wrote:

> IE is pretty good at cutting and then pasting into OE which is not the
> case with Mozilla Mail and Browser. But IE has not been set up for
> copying pages with CSS unfortunately.

In Mozilla, File > Send Page.

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Toby A Inkster wrote:
> Ben wrote:
>
>
>>IE is pretty good at cutting and then pasting into OE which is not the
>>case with Mozilla Mail and Browser. But IE has not been set up for
>>copying pages with CSS unfortunately.
>
>
> In Mozilla, File > Send Page.

Thanks for that. I'll have to experiment with it. One of the advantages
of the Ie/OE way though is the ability of modifying or adding text to
the page you pasted as well. I can copy part of a table for example and
paste it in to the email to myself. Mozilla allows you to copy tables,
but does not allow partial tables which can be a bother.

regards,
Ben


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> >
> EVERYBODY I know, family, friends, work, you name it, has HTML turned
> off. When you spammers send email, the ones that get by the filters
> get added to the kill filter list. Screw you people. You are the
> reason what could have been a nice thing has fallen into disuse.
> -
> Andy

I was determined to stay out of this message thread until this moron got
involved. I admin the mail accounts for some 30 employees for 10+ years.
They all have HTML turned on! I filter some 5,000 spam emails at the domain
level every week. The only time we've had problems is when a user clicked
onto an attachment. Apparently, idiots like yourselves. I do not subscribe
to the "sky is falling" religion you select few have chosen. Correct!
"Select few." I personally do not know of anyone that has HTML turned off.
We live in a colorful world and choose to see color. We use it for proofing
and emphasizing ideas and instruction. Color is here and it's staying!

Through your own little cult thinking I have now been labeled a spammer. We
have 18,000 subscribers that we email twice a week. More sign up every week,
some unsubscribe or bounce every week. Regardless, in 6 years we've been
accused of spamming twice. Both from morons like yourselves who pounce on
the opportunity to inflame a situation because your lives are pathetic and
boring.

Be assured that if you were admin of my company, you'd be on the street in a
hurry! If you cannot keep your local machines safe in an HTML world, what
the hell good are you? We embrace technology and welcome it!!! Wake up and
get a life people! There's a great big world out there. Check it out
someday!

When you throw mud - expect to catch a bit yourselves!