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This month's MacCompanion does a review of Java compilers from a Mac
perspective:

http://www.maccompanion.com/archives...ingtoHoyle.htm

Last I heard, JBuilder was the dominant one on Mac OS X, but according
to this article, that's no longer true. Anyone else have an idea what
the state of Java is on the Mac these days?

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 01:46:22 +0800, Math1723 wrote
(in article <. com>):

> This month's MacCompanion does a review of Java compilers from a Mac
> perspective:
>
> http://www.maccompanion.com/archives...ingtoHoyle.htm
>
> Last I heard, JBuilder was the dominant one on Mac OS X, but according
> to this article, that's no longer true. Anyone else have an idea what
> the state of Java is on the Mac these days?
>

very good.
Check out JDeveloper from oracle, it is FREE, as in FREE.
Excellent Graphical debugging , clearly shows the callouts graphically.

built in SQL, S.O.A.P etc

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In article <>, steve <> wrote:

> very good.
> Check out JDeveloper from oracle, it is FREE, as in FREE.
> Excellent Graphical debugging , clearly shows the callouts graphically.

I am sure it's great for all the things that you mention.
Unfortunately, it is yet-another MDI IDE. It's really sad that the only
way to avoid MDI these days is either to use XCode or to go back to
Emacs and make files, the way our grandparents did their programming.

jyh.

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On 2006-04-01 09:46:22 -0800, "Math1723" <> said:

> This month's MacCompanion does a review of Java compilers from a Mac
> perspective:
>
> http://www.maccompanion.com/archives...ingtoHoyle.htm

This article is actually reviewing Java IDEs, not compilers. A Java
compiler would be, for example, /usr/bin/javac -- a program that takes
Java source code and generates Java bytecode or some other form of
object code.

-- Chris

Try SunOne. It's great. And free

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>> Try SunOne. *It's great. *And free.

But does it run on the Mac? Do you have a link for me to download.
When I went to Sun's site, it appears to be Windows only.

I expect Java to be cross-platform, and that includes the compiler and
IDE's themselves. A Java IDE which is Windows-only would *definitely*
make me write it off as unacceptable. C'mon people, it's Java. These
should be the *first* things that are supported on alternative
platforms.

"Math1723" <> writes:

> >> Try SunOne. *It's great. *And free.
>
> But does it run on the Mac? Do you have a link for me to download.
> When I went to Sun's site, it appears to be Windows only.
>
> I expect Java to be cross-platform, and that includes the compiler and
> IDE's themselves. A Java IDE which is Windows-only would *definitely*
> make me write it off as unacceptable. C'mon people, it's Java. These
> should be the *first* things that are supported on alternative
> platforms.

IDEA ... http://www.jetbrains.com ... not free, but the best

S.

>> IDEA ... http://www.jetbrains.com ... not free, but the best

That is in fact what the article concludes. IDEA seems to be getting
all the glowing reviews. For free Java IDE's though, the article
recommends Eclipse.

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:29:24 +0800, Chris Hanson wrote
(in article <2006040223292416807-cmh@maccom>):

> On 2006-04-01 09:46:22 -0800, "Math1723" <> said:
>
>> This month's MacCompanion does a review of Java compilers from a Mac
>> perspective:
>>
>> http://www.maccompanion.com/archives...ingtoHoyle.htm
>
> This article is actually reviewing Java IDEs, not compilers. A Java
> compiler would be, for example, /usr/bin/javac -- a program that takes
> Java source code and generates Java bytecode or some other form of
> object code.
>
> -- Chris
>

toddle over to oracle's web site & down load Jdeveloper 10I (yes it works on
osx)

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:14:23 +0800, jean-yves herve wrote
(in article <jyh->):

> In article <>, steve <> wrote:
>
>> very good.
>> Check out JDeveloper from oracle, it is FREE, as in FREE.
>> Excellent Graphical debugging , clearly shows the callouts graphically.
>
> I am sure it's great for all the things that you mention.
> Unfortunately, it is yet-another MDI IDE. It's really sad that the only
> way to avoid MDI these days is either to use XCode or to go back to
> Emacs and make files, the way our grandparents did their programming.
>
> jyh.
>
>

that was not his question, he was asking about the state of development on
the mac.

We could all ramble on about:
How we used to program univac's using punched tape and card stacks
or how our old PDP11 could not cut it with 4kb of memory,
or how it's old brother was used as a doorstop-
or how finding a broken core memory with a magnifying class could take
several days .

but it ain't relevant to the topic.


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