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Matt
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      09-25-2004
For a job interview, what sample work we should show? We cannot show
the source code we did in previous jobs, or documentations in previous
jobs, because of company's propreitary, correct?

please advise. thanks!!
 
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      09-25-2004
On 24 Sep 2004 23:00:09 -0700, Matt wrote:

> For a job interview, what sample work we should show?


Why don't you show them transcripts of some of the
many times you have helped people learning Java through
the public discussion groups?

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      09-25-2004

"Andrew Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 24 Sep 2004 23:00:09 -0700, Matt wrote:
>
> > For a job interview, what sample work we should show?

>
> Why don't you show them transcripts of some of the
> many times you have helped people learning Java through
> the public discussion groups?
>


Wicked

Is in common (in the USA ?) to ask job applicants to provide examples of
work done in past employment? In the UK I reckon you're more likely to be
asked to describe projects and answer more general questions. How would
you even know that the work was really their own?

Maybe if coding skills are really crucial it might be better to set a few
problems and leave them at a PC for an hour or two.

Michael Saunby


 
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Thomas G. Marshall
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      09-25-2004
Michael Saunby coughed up:
> "Andrew Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 24 Sep 2004 23:00:09 -0700, Matt wrote:
>>
>>> For a job interview, what sample work we should show?

>>
>> Why don't you show them transcripts of some of the
>> many times you have helped people learning Java through
>> the public discussion groups?
>>

>
> Wicked
>
> Is in common (in the USA ?) to ask job applicants to provide examples
> of work done in past employment?


No. Very unusual, IME. Never happened to me in 20ish years.


> In the UK I reckon you're more
> likely to be asked to describe projects and answer more general
> questions. How would you even know that the work was really their
> own?
>
> Maybe if coding skills are really crucial it might be better to set a
> few problems and leave them at a PC for an hour or two.
>
> Michael Saunby


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      09-25-2004
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) (Matt) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed). com>...
> For a job interview, what sample work we should show? We cannot show
> the source code we did in previous jobs, or documentations in previous
> jobs, because of company's propreitary, correct?
>
> please advise. thanks!!


A personal home page with a couple of servlets running on it did it
for me. I mentioned in a cover-letter they they should have one of
their techies look at it; the logs showed that someone played poker
for half-an-hour. That job interview held no fear ...

..ed

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      09-25-2004
(E-Mail Removed) coughed up:
> (E-Mail Removed) (Matt) wrote in message
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>> For a job interview, what sample work we should show? We cannot show
>> the source code we did in previous jobs, or documentations in
>> previous jobs, because of company's propreitary, correct?
>>
>> please advise. thanks!!

>
> A personal home page with a couple of servlets running on it did it
> for me. I mentioned in a cover-letter they they should have one of
> their techies look at it; the logs showed that someone played poker
> for half-an-hour. That job interview held no fear ...
>
> .ed
>
> www.EdmundKirwan.com - Home of The Fractal Class Composition


Good idea.

Perhaps another good idea in applying in general is to supply a cd-rom with
a fully blown application that you've written on the side. And make it
glitzy as hell using skinning.

To the side of the interview process, my favorite idea (for resume
submittal) is instead of placing the phrase

"references available upon request"

in your resume, supply a sheet with 7 reference /quotes/ from your 7
greatest fan co-workers. A sentence or 2 or a paragraph, as in the first
page of novels, extolling your abilities just shy of nauseum

"This guy taught me more about OO than 10+ prior
years of world experience. He did this and that {etc....}"
Dwight Shmidlap, principal architect
Smedly Corp, (E-Mail Removed)
123-456-7890 x123

And then they'll be faced most resumes with unknown references, and then
yours which 7 known opinions, and names and emails to go with them. This
works in another way too. People often dread checking references, and often
don't do them at all. When you supply them ahead of time, you'll have
references in their heads, and the others might not get checked at all.

You'll appear as a /known entity/. A bird in the hand, to overuse a
metaphor.

IMHO.


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      09-25-2004
"Thomas G. Marshall" <(E-Mail Removed). com>
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>
> To the side of the interview process, my favorite idea (for resume
> submittal) is instead of placing the phrase
>
> "references available upon request"
>
> in your resume, supply a sheet with 7 reference /quotes/ from your 7
> greatest fan co-workers. A sentence or 2 or a paragraph, as in the first
> page of novels, extolling your abilities just shy of nauseum
>
> "This guy taught me more about OO than 10+ prior
> years of world experience. He did this and that {etc....}"
> Dwight Shmidlap, principal architect
> Smedly Corp, (E-Mail Removed)
> 123-456-7890 x123
>
> And then they'll be faced most resumes with unknown references, and then
> yours which 7 known opinions, and names and emails to go with them. This
> works in another way too. People often dread checking references, and

often
> don't do them at all. When you supply them ahead of time, you'll have
> references in their heads, and the others might not get checked at all.
>
> You'll appear as a /known entity/. A bird in the hand, to overuse a
> metaphor.
>
> IMHO.


This is an absolutely brilliant idea! Thanks!


 
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      09-27-2004
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:51:27 +0100, Michael Saunby wrote:

> Is in common (in the USA ?) to ask job applicants to provide examples of
> work done in past employment? In the UK I reckon you're more likely to be
> asked to describe projects and answer more general questions. How would
> you even know that the work was really their own?


NDAs and contracts have forbidden me to go into too much detail about
projects with prior companies. Instead I show a project I developed off
to the side and released as freeware.

For my first real job after graduation, I let them see some school
projects, the problems my team solved at the ACM regional programming
contest (where we took 10th out of more than 60 teams), and some special
projects I did for my professors off to the side. These samples landed me
a great job with a start-up.

> Maybe if coding skills are really crucial it might be better to set a
> few problems and leave them at a PC for an hour or two.
>
> Michael Saunby


During my three days of interviewing at Novel, they gave me a sheet of
some advanced code then asked to think out loud as I figured out what it
does. Then they gave me a sample problem and had me work it out on the
white board.

HTH,
La'ie Techie

 
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      09-28-2004
Rogue Chameleon coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <(E-Mail Removed). com> wrote in
> message news:2jg5d.3269$Wa7.1381@trndny06...
>>
>> To the side of the interview process, my favorite idea (for resume
>> submittal) is instead of placing the phrase
>>
>> "references available upon request"
>>
>> in your resume, supply a sheet with 7 reference /quotes/ from your 7
>> greatest fan co-workers. A sentence or 2 or a paragraph, as in the
>> first page of novels, extolling your abilities just shy of nauseum
>>
>> "This guy taught me more about OO than 10+ prior
>> years of world experience. He did this and that {etc....}"
>> Dwight Shmidlap, principal architect
>> Smedly Corp, (E-Mail Removed)
>> 123-456-7890 x123
>>
>> And then they'll be faced most resumes with unknown references, and
>> then yours which 7 known opinions, and names and emails to go with
>> them. This works in another way too. People often dread checking
>> references, and often don't do them at all. When you supply them
>> ahead of time, you'll have references in their heads, and the others
>> might not get checked at all.
>>
>> You'll appear as a /known entity/. A bird in the hand, to overuse a
>> metaphor.
>>
>> IMHO.

>
> This is an absolutely brilliant idea! Thanks!


Thank you! And you're welcome. I hesitated giving it, because I not only
wanted to pretend that I thought of it (no ideas are truly unique, give or
take), and that I didn't want /everyone/ doing that.

LOL



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      09-28-2004
Thomas G. Marshall coughed up:
> Rogue Chameleon coughed up:
>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>> <(E-Mail Removed). com> wrote in
>> message news:2jg5d.3269$Wa7.1381@trndny06...
>>>
>>> To the side of the interview process, my favorite idea (for resume
>>> submittal) is instead of placing the phrase
>>>
>>> "references available upon request"
>>>
>>> in your resume, supply a sheet with 7 reference /quotes/ from your 7
>>> greatest fan co-workers. A sentence or 2 or a paragraph, as in the
>>> first page of novels, extolling your abilities just shy of nauseum
>>>
>>>
>>> "This guy taught me more about OO than 10+ prior
>>> years of world experience. He did this and that {etc....}"
>>> Dwight Shmidlap, principal architect
>>> Smedly Corp, (E-Mail Removed)
>>> 123-456-7890 x123
>>>
>>> And then they'll be faced most resumes with unknown references, and
>>> then yours which 7 known opinions, and names and emails to go with
>>> them. This works in another way too. People often dread checking
>>> references, and often don't do them at all. When you supply them
>>> ahead of time, you'll have references in their heads, and the others
>>> might not get checked at all.
>>>
>>> You'll appear as a /known entity/. A bird in the hand, to overuse a
>>> metaphor.
>>>
>>> IMHO.

>>
>> This is an absolutely brilliant idea! Thanks!

>
> Thank you! And you're welcome. I hesitated giving it, because I not
> only wanted to pretend that I thought of it


What I mean is that even though I /did/ conujur this on my own, I wanted the
pretend glory that I was the only one in the universe who /ever/ thought of
it. Emphasis on "pretend".

Ah well.


> (no ideas are truly
> unique, give or take), and that I didn't want /everyone/ doing that.
>
> LOL


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