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Although I am against it, for the very same reasons most of you are here, I
have been encumbered with having to make an Applet run on MSIE withOUT the
Sun plugin installed.

Thus, I have compiled everythign under jdk 1.1.8

There are no other jars the applet is dependent upon. Unfortunately, since
it IS a chat applet, and connects to a server other than the one serving it
up, it has to be digitally signed.

Under the Sun Plugin, everything runs fine. However, in MSIE, it never even
appears. I dont understand why as it was compiled entirely under 1.1.8. If
anyone has any insight as to why this wont run under the old MS VM, I would
be most grateful. I jsut want to get on to other things! Thanks, Ike

Applet is at:

http://www.ggrip.com/chat.html

p.s. the HTML for invoking it is fine, I have copied it from another site
that invokes an UNsigned applet which runs fine under MS VM.

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:05:07 GMT, Ike wrote:

> Under the Sun Plugin, everything runs fine. However, in MSIE, it never even
> appears. I dont understand why as it was compiled entirely under 1.1.8.

Start with the exception it is showing
in the console..

java.lang.NullPointerException
at java/awt/TextField.<init>
at GG/chat/GGChatApplet.init
at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.sec...

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Hey Andrew!
Yep, that was it....you da man. Hmmm, for some reason, I'm unable to bring
up the java console under MSIE....even though in MSIE-options I have it
enabled. Thank you again. -Ike



"Andrew Thompson" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 17:05:07 GMT, Ike wrote:
>
> > Under the Sun Plugin, everything runs fine. However, in MSIE, it never
even
> > appears. I dont understand why as it was compiled entirely under 1.1.8.
>
> Start with the exception it is showing
> in the console..
>
> java.lang.NullPointerException
> at java/awt/TextField.<init>
> at GG/chat/GGChatApplet.init
> at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.sec...
>
> --
> Andrew Thompson
> http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
> http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
> http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:22:38 GMT, Ike wrote:

> ...Hmmm, for some reason, I'm unable to bring
> up the java console under MSIE....even though in MSIE-options I have it
> enabled.

...odd. You are referring to ..
(alt|v, j) rather than
(alt|t, 'Sun Java Console' [or whatever])?

>Thank you again. -Ike

You're welcome.

--
Andrew Thompson
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No......I just meant in the options-advanced tab on MSIE...I didnt even know
the alt|v,j was there......now I got it. Thanks again! Ike

"Andrew Thompson" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:22:38 GMT, Ike wrote:
>
> > ...Hmmm, for some reason, I'm unable to bring
> > up the java console under MSIE....even though in MSIE-options I have it
> > enabled.
>
> ..odd. You are referring to ..
> (alt|v, j) rather than
> (alt|t, 'Sun Java Console' [or whatever])?
>
> >Thank you again. -Ike
>
> You're welcome.
>
> --
> Andrew Thompson
> http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
> http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
> http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:35:44 GMT, Ike wrote:

> No......I just meant in the options-advanced tab on MSIE...I didnt even know
> the alt|v,j was there......now I got it.

I have been meaning to point out in a page
somewhere, the fiendish practice of hiding
the MS console under a completely separate menu.

But then, I only have 800Meg available on my
server, so if I started pages on the evils of
IE, it would fill my site...

--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology

"Ike" <> wrote in message
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> Under the Sun Plugin, everything runs fine. However, in MSIE, it never
even
> appears. I dont understand why as it was compiled entirely under 1.1.8. If
> anyone has any insight as to why this wont run under the old MS VM, I
would
> be most grateful. I jsut want to get on to other things! Thanks, Ike

The Security Warning that pops up says "The root certificate has not been
enabled as a trusted root." What type of certificate are you using?

I presume you did your signing on the CAB file, though you did not state
that explicitly.

Just a test certificate, thats all it is. Yes, I came across:

http://www.javacoffeebreak.com/faq/javasigningfaq.html

Which explained how to sign the cab, and how to amend the html for the cab,
such that it will run in the Sun plugin or without, using the MS VM.

-Ike

"Mickey Segal" <> wrote in message
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> "Ike" <> wrote in message
> news:7TIvc.20383$ hlink.net...
> > Under the Sun Plugin, everything runs fine. However, in MSIE, it never
> even
> > appears. I dont understand why as it was compiled entirely under 1.1.8.
If
> > anyone has any insight as to why this wont run under the old MS VM, I
> would
> > be most grateful. I jsut want to get on to other things! Thanks, Ike
>
> The Security Warning that pops up says "The root certificate has not been
> enabled as a trusted root." What type of certificate are you using?
>
> I presume you did your signing on the CAB file, though you did not state
> that explicitly.
>
>

"Ike" <> wrote in message
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> Just a test certificate, thats all it is. Yes, I came across:
>
> http://www.javacoffeebreak.com/faq/javasigningfaq.html
>
> Which explained how to sign the cab, and how to amend the html for the
cab,
> such that it will run in the Sun plugin or without, using the MS VM.

Using Windows XP and IE 6 with the MS JVM (3810) I get into the applet fine
after accepting the certificate and it seems to work.

Thanks Mickey. Yes, ultimately, after Andrew's having pointed out a few
things re MSIE to me, and that website, Ive found its a little easier than I
had thought it was going to be.

But there is NO WAY I am writing code for 1.1.8 again!

-Ike

"Mickey Segal" <> wrote in message
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> "Ike" <> wrote in message
> news:SBQvc.822$ k.net...
> > Just a test certificate, thats all it is. Yes, I came across:
> >
> > http://www.javacoffeebreak.com/faq/javasigningfaq.html
> >
> > Which explained how to sign the cab, and how to amend the html for the
> cab,
> > such that it will run in the Sun plugin or without, using the MS VM.
>
> Using Windows XP and IE 6 with the MS JVM (3810) I get into the applet
fine
> after accepting the certificate and it seems to work.
>
>