On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:23:07 GMT, Leonidas Jones <>
wrote:
>graeme wrote:
>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>> graeme wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> graeme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> graeme wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have just purchased a new computer, but still run Win98. On my
>>>>>>>> old computer I was using Thunderbird 1.06 but on the new one I am
>>>>>>>> using Thunderbird 1.07. I have been using Thunderbird for years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My problem is that on the old computer after I had read a News
>>>>>>>> Group and closed it, all the messages were automatically
>>>>>>>> deleted. Now if I use the ALL view the messages are all still
>>>>>>>> there. Does anyone know what I need to do to delete these old
>>>>>>>> messages?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you downloading messages for offline viewing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If not, all the messages in a news group are stored on the
>>>>>>> server. You cannot delete them, but you can choose not to see them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set your View settings to solve this. Your settings will depend on
>>>>>>> your preference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I prefer to view newsgroups with messages threaded, and to see
>>>>>>> only the threads with unread messages. To accomplish this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> View>>Sort By>>Threaded
>>>>>>> Then:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> View>>Messages>>All
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> View>>Threads>>Threads with Unread
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can play with the view settings to customize them. Easiest
>>>>>>> thing may be to look at the view settings on the old machine, then
>>>>>>> set them in the same way on the new machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Lee but that is not the solution I am looking for. I use
>>>>>> Broadband so I am always On Line and have never used the Local
>>>>>> Folder. Are you saying that all messages are kept on your computer
>>>>>> unless you use the Unread option?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, if you are on broadband, you are not downloading for off line
>>>>> use, most likely.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are not downloading for off line reading, no messages are
>>>>> stored on your machine at all. Only the headers are downloaded. The
>>>>> messages are stored on the news server, and you can only see them on
>>>>> line.
>>>>>
>>>>> You cannot delete messages from the server, but you can mark them
>>>>> as read. You can then select a view option that hides messages
>>>>> marked as read.
>>>>>
>>>>> The directions I gave were intended to set your View settings to
>>>>> see only the threads with messages you have not read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee
>>>>
>>>> I have set the settings as they were on my old computer. With my ISP
>>>> they download the messages, these are the ones that i want to delete.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Somehow we are not understanding one another. Newsgroup message
>>> bodies are stored on the news server, not your local machine. You
>>> cannot delete them, you can only hide them from your view.
>>>
>>> The only thing actually downloaded are the message headers, so
>>> Thunderbird can see what's on the server. You can, however, choose to
>>> download message bodies for offline viewing, but you say you have not
>>> done this.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what you mean by "With my ISP they download the
>>> messages". If your ISP has some sort of newsgroup arrangement that is
>>> different then any other, I won't be able to help.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>> Thanks for your patience Lee, I just unplugged my modem and although the
>> headers were still there I was unable to read them so as you say the
>> messages are stored on the server. On my old machine whenever i closed
>> a news group the headers were automatically deleted. I obviously had a
>> fault on my old machine. I can live using the unread option so I will
>> live with it. Thanks again for your help.
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>
>I try to be patient, and it is no problem here.
>
>The headers won't be deleted until such time as you delete expired
>messages, which vary according to server. I still think that there is
>view setting you're missing here, but if you can live with this on this
>machine, I think we can emulate Sgt. Preston of the Yukon:
>
>"This case is closed!"
>
>Lee
No, no, no! No such thing as "the Yukon". Local usage is simply
<Yukon>!
Similarly, you'll cause traffic jams in Admonton and other large
places on the Canadian Prairies by referring to "The Ukraine".
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