Finding parent article

08-11-2005

Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
or not)?

Larry

08-12-2005

Larry Spitz wrote:
> Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
> or not)?
>
> Larry

Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread

Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.

08-12-2005

Larry Spitz wrote:
>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>or not)?

Moz Champion wrote:
> Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
> and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread

It's even easier to find if you mark one message in the thread as
unread, then use View-->Threads-->Threads with Unread

> Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
> thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
> then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.

It also assumes that it was posted within the time limit in your TB
settings - for example, I delete anything more than 2 weeks old, so I
wouldn't find a 3 week old message. In which case, Larry, Google is
your friend:
<URL:http://groups.google.co.uk/advanced_search?hl=en>

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

08-12-2005

venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

> Larry Spitz wrote:
>> Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>> or not)?

>> Larry

> Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
> and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread

> Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
> thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
> then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.

Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replying to.

In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.
--
Maria Luisa C - 12/08/2005 14.09.45
Never judge a book by its movie.

08-12-2005

MLC wrote:
> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>
>
>>Larry Spitz wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>>or not)?
>
>
>>>Larry
>
>
>>Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread
>
>
>>Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
>>thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
>>then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.
>
>
> Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
> response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replying to.
>
> In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
> isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
> headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.

Well, view threaded then!
the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
followed which.

08-12-2005

venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

> MLC wrote:
>> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

>>>Larry Spitz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>>>or not)?

>>>>Larry

>>>Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>>and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread

>>>Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
>>>thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
>>>then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.

>> Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
>> response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replying to.

>> In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
>> isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
>> headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.

> Well, view threaded then!
> the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
> Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
> followed which.

No again!

Also in a threaded view the parent of a message can be several messages
above it.

I'm viewing threaded, in fact my ordered view is by Thread, Score, Date.
--
Maria Luisa C - 12/08/2005 21.27.19
Sherlock Holmes NEVER said, "Elementary, my dear Watson."

08-12-2005

MLC wrote:
> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>
>
>>MLC wrote:
>>
>>>venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>
>
>>>>Larry Spitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>>>>or not)?
>
>
>>>>>Larry
>
>
>>>>Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>>>and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread
>
>
>>>>Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
>>>>thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
>>>>then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.
>
>
>>>Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
>>>response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replyingto.
>
>
>>>In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
>>>isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
>>>headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.
>
>
>>Well, view threaded then!
>>the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
>>Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
>>followed which.
>
>
> No again!

> Also in a threaded view the parent of a message can be several messages
> above it.
>
> I'm viewing threaded, in fact my ordered view is by Thread, Score, Date.

In Thunderbird, each message is threaded directly below the message it
is in reply to. Example 1
this message is directly underneath YOUR message, hence your message is
its 'parent' in your vernacular.

See next message for Example 2

08-12-2005

MLC wrote:
> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>
>
>>MLC wrote:
>>
>>>venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>
>
>>>>Larry Spitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>>>>or not)?
>
>
>>>>>Larry
>
>
>>>>Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>>>and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread
>
>
>>>>Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
>>>>thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
>>>>then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.
>
>
>>>Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
>>>response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replyingto.
>
>
>>>In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
>>>isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
>>>headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.
>
>
>>Well, view threaded then!
>>the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
>>Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
>>followed which.
>
>
> No again!

> Also in a threaded view the parent of a message can be several messages
> above it.
>
> I'm viewing threaded, in fact my ordered view is by Thread, Score, Date.

This is Example 2.

Note how this message is again directly underneath yours (its 'parent'
in your vernaculer) even tho there are several messages between them

08-12-2005

Moz Champion wrote:
> MLC wrote:
>
>> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>> MLC wrote:
>>>
>>>> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Larry Spitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads
>>>>>> mode or not)?
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>>>> and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started
>>>>> the thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has
>>>>> expired then the earliest message (non expired) will be the
>>>>> 'parent' for the thread.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
>>>> response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm
>>>> replying to.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in
>>>> Thunderbird there
>>>> isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
>>>> headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References
>>>> header.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Well, view threaded then!
>>> the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
>>> Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
>>> followed which.
>>
>>
>>
>> No again!

>> Also in a threaded view the parent of a message can be several messages
>> above it.
>>
>> I'm viewing threaded, in fact my ordered view is by Thread, Score, Date.
>
>
> In Thunderbird, each message is threaded directly below the message it
> is in reply to. Example 1
> this message is directly underneath YOUR message, hence your message is
> its 'parent' in your vernacular.
>
> See next message for Example 2

This is to illustrate how threading works.
Note that since this is a reply to my post, it will be directly
underneath my post, even tho its made at a later time than Example 2.
Note how Example 2 is still lined up directly underneath its 'parent'
(your vernacular) even tho this message is listed above it.

08-12-2005

venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

> MLC wrote:
>> venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

>>>MLC wrote:
>>>
>>>>venerdì 12 agosto 2005 Moz Champion ha scritto:

>>>>>Larry Spitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a way to find the parent of an article (either in threads mode
>>>>>>or not)?

>>>>>>Larry

>>>>>Parent? Sure, just use View-->Threads-->All
>>>>>and the 'parent' article is the first in the thread

>>>>>Caveats: This assumes that the parent article (the one that started the
>>>>>thread) is still available on the server of course, if it has expired
>>>>>then the earliest message (non expired) will be the 'parent' for the thread.

>>>>Uhm, no, the parent of an article is that one to which the article is a
>>>>response. For this my article, the parent is your article I'm replying to.

>>>>In Dialog we have a shortcut (Shift-Ctrl-P) for it. If in Thunderbird there
>>>>isn't one, I suppose it can be always used the old method to show the
>>>>headers and then click on the last Message-Id of the References header.

>>>Well, view threaded then!
>>>the 'parent' message is the one above the one you are reading
>>>Thats what threaded view is for, it shows all the messages and which
>>>followed which.

>> No again!

>> Also in a threaded view the parent of a message can be several messages
>> above it.
>>
>> I'm viewing threaded, in fact my ordered view is by Thread, Score, Date.

> This is Example 2.

> Note how this message is again directly underneath yours (its 'parent'
> in your vernaculer) even tho there are several messages between them

First, it's not 'my vernacular' but it's the terminology used by
newsreaders for the navigation among articles. If it were 'my vernacular',
Larry Spitz wouldn't have used it, don't you think?

Second, you said:
/the 'parent' message is _the one above the one_ you are reading/
which isn't correct and I replied to that.

Now instead of admittitng your error, or your ignorance of the meaning of
the word 'parent' in a newsreader context, you teach to me how the messages
thread? and at last say:
/even tho there are several messages between them/
that is what I replied to you.

--
Maria Luisa C - 12/08/2005 22.26.54
War doesn't determine who's right, but who's left.

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