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On 3/2/2005 5:29 PM, Leonidas Jones said:

> I'll have to check that. I don't have a sig file set for my default
> email, I would have expected it to load it up.

Indeedy!

> Well, from here, clicking on a mailto in FF brings up a TB Compose
> window, using the default email, with sig. I did note if I used
> File>>Send Link, the sig was not added. Do the mailto's that don;t addd
> the sig hahve any prewritten material in the body?

Far as I can see, no. Just checked -- much the same happens when I
compose via 'Email for review' from Acrobat, from Word, etc. From where
I'm sitting it's no emergency, but perhaps it constitutes a bug. Or
having the option might be worth a feature request...

cheers,

David

wrote:
>
> I just have to say this. I installed Firefox several months ago, and
> absolutely love it. I decided that Thunderbird might be just as good,
> even though I have been using Eudora for nearly 10 years. I installed
> Thunderbird, and fought with it, and fought with it more. I
> originally let it import from Eudora. That was a mistake. It
> insisted on resending all 280 some messages that had been sent, and
> kept telling me that there were 6 unread messages, that DID NOT EXIST.
> I fought with it more, and yet more. I could not get it to stop
> bugging me about those six messages, and the supposed unsent messages,
> and everytime I did anything, it kept popping up about those messages.
> I finally uninstalled it, figuring I would do a bare-bones install,
> not allowing it to get any info from Eudora. I ran a complete
> uninstall, and reinstalled it, only to find that it had retained all
> that stuff it had taken from before. I uninstalled again, and moved
> Eudora to an external backup drive, and disconnected that drive. I
> rebooted, and installed it again. The damn thing once again found all
> that junk as before. I finally found that uninstalling does not
> truely uninstall, because it stored all that stuff it had imported in
> the windows/application data/*.* folder. It also left other files in
> my windows dir. After several hours of searching my drive, I finally
> succeeded in destroying all that junk. Once again I installed it.
> This time I finally got a bare-bones installation, however, I found it
> takes over a minute to load, with not even one email in it.
>
> I finally decided to send an email to myself as a test. I typed a few
> words and fought with it again over something or other, which I really
> did not understand what it wanted, nor at this point did I care,
> because I had just plain had enough of this piece of **** software. I
> hit "cancel" or "do not send", or whatever wording it uses to NOT send
> that email, but it insisted on asking me over and over and over what
> to do with that message, even though I told it 5 or more times to kill
> the ****ing message. I used a 3 finger salute and rebooted the
> computer at that point. Re started Windows, and uninstalled it. Then
> I went and cleaned up all the junk that the uninstaller misses.
>
> I have been using computers for 15 years, from Dos to Windows 3.x to
> OS2, and some Macintosh use, and presently Windows ME. I am going to
> be honest. Thunderbird was just added to my list of the top ten WORST
> pieces of software I have ever tried. I do not like ANYTHING about
> it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !!!
>
> I find it hard to believe that the same company that created one of
> the best, if not the absolute best browser (Firefox) in history, could
> possibly create anything as horrible and user unfriendly and crappy as
> Thunderbird. I will never install it again, considering there are is
> a much better piece of software bundled with Windows, (Outlook
> Express), except for the virus issues, which is why I do not regularly
> use it. So, I will continue to pay for Eudora which as always been
> the best.
>
> Thunderbird is horrible ! What a piece of **** !

I've used Thunderbird for a while now and had no problems with it,
except a small niggle where TB keeps asking me if I want it for default
mail application even though I've told it yes and not to ask me again,
though I don't use it for news groups (I use Netscape 4.76 to read them
and Free Agent to download pictures, etc). Anyway, on reading your
complaint you never said you uninstalled Eudora before installing
Thunderbird (unless I missed that bit) so maybe it's Eudora spitting the
dummy at having Thunderbird on the same system.
Just a thought.

Watchman
--
'Anyone who isn't confused doesn't really know what's going on'

John wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2005 08:24:18 -0800, "..brian.."
<> wrote:
>
> >
> >John wrote:
> >> <wink>
> >> What bothers me most, since your opinion on this subject is no
> >doubt,
> >> absolutely, and definitely right - what about those thousands
> >(perhaps tens of
> >> thousands) of poor people who have been deluded into thinking that
> >Thunderbird
> >> is a good program?
> >> What are we going to do to save them from certain didaster?
> >> </wink>
> >>
> >> John
> >
> >LOL. If you guys, Eudora lovers, want the TB users who can't think
for
> >themselves... feel free to have them! Nobody is tricked into
using
> >the always Thunderbird, a good and always free email client, which
is
> >very young in development.
> >
> >Hmm... TB 1.0 vs Eudora 6.2.1...
>
> Hey, Brian: Lighten up! You obviously did not note I was poking fun
at
> and all others who are so absolutely convinced
that the
> program they are using is the absolute best, the only thing, and
everything elso
> is sub-standard.
>
> In all fairness, there are Eudora users who feel that way, and there
are
> Thunderbird users who feel that way.
>
> As far as I am concerned - I have a mail program I like and use, and
it does the
> job for me. My browser of choice is Firefox (the reason I monitor
this group)
> and my mail client of choice is not Thunderbird.
> As far as anyone else is concerned: "Whatever blows up your skirt"
(quoting Pat
> Sajak).
>
> So: Whatever blows up your skirt, Btrian (-:
>
> John

The <winks> were quite clear. And if I were being completely serious
with you, I wouldn't have inserted the LOL, and in my message.
--
Brian

On 2 Mar 2005 23:31:17 -0800, "..brian.." <> wrote:

>
>The <winks> were quite clear. And if I were being completely serious
>with you, I wouldn't have inserted the LOL, and in my message.


Gotcha, Brian!
Have a good one, and stay warm (if you're in the frozen North, as I am).

John <><

wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2005 07:19:40 -0800, "..brian.." <>
> wrote:
>
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I just have to say this. I installed Firefox several months ago, and
>>>absolutely love it. I decided that Thunderbird might be just as
>>
>>good,
>>
>>>even though I have been using Eudora for nearly 10 years.
>>
>>Which is it? "nearly 10 years", or "using computers for 15 years".
>>Make up your mind, or learn to lie consistently.
>>
>>
>>>I have been using computers for 15 years, from Dos to Windows 3.x to
>>>OS2, and some Macintosh use, and presently Windows ME. I am going to
>>>be honest. Thunderbird was just added to my list of the top ten
>>
>>WORST
>>
>>>pieces of software I have ever tried. I do not like ANYTHING about
>>>it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING !!!
>>
>>But you enjoy using ME!? I'm amazed at your high-tech credentials, and
>>now I value your opinion much more than /before/ I knew of your vast
>>computer experience.
>>
>>But anyway, do you feel better now? It's too bad you just wasted time
>>ranting about TB to people who don't give a ****. Just as I'm wasting
>>my time replying to a Eudora fan-boy. Here in AFM, we don't care if
>>you don't like Thunderbird; just quit using it. It's that simple.
>>It's your choice, and you didn't loose anything by trying it. It's
>>free.
>>
>>You might want to try your whining over on comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows
>>-- with other people who love Eudora.
>>
>>Just as you hate TB, there are plenty of people who hate Eudora. I can
>>post links to multiple newsgroup posts, and a ton of "Eudora problem"
>>related posts from the Eudora lifespan. But I'm not going to waste my
>>time pointing this out to a Eudora fan-boy.
>>
>>Personally, I hate the way Eudora looks and operates, and there is no
>>way I would ever consider paying for it. But that's why I don't
>>
>>Here's something I hate more: that in all of Eudora's greatness, the
>>makers decided that I can not disable HTML email... but worse yet...
>>the user can't stop the email client from loading remote images. What
>>a wonderful work of art!
>>
>>Keep using Eudora if you like it. And people who like TB will keep
>>using it. You really wasted your time trolling around in here with
>>your rants. So keep paying for and using your remote image loading,
>>HTML loving POS email client.
>>
>>It's just that simple.
>>
>>comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows
>
>
> I am not trolling, as well as I am not telling anyone to, or not to
> use Thunderbird. I am sure that those who work with Thunderbird read
> this group, and I am giving honest feedback as to my experience with
> it.
>
> I said I used COMPUTERS for 15 years, Eudora for 10. Prior to that, I
> did not have internet. In the early 90's most people used local BBS
> services, as did I, and the internet was not readily available to the
> public yet.
>
> I am not sure why you dislike Windows ME. I used Win98 since shortly
> after it became available. It always worked well, although it had a
> few bugs. I recently got a copy of ME given to me, so I upgraded.
> It's the same as 98, minus a few bugs. This is an older computer, and
> most likely could not run XP. However, I do not like XP anyhow. It's
> geared toward people that want to plug in their computer and not learn
> how to use it. I like the ability to control what my computer does,
> as 98 and ME allow. I have no interest in upgrading.
>
> As for Eudora, it does have a few flaws, and you touched on the one
> that I also find most irritating. I do not care for HTML email. This
> is the biggest flaw in Eudora, along with occasional crashes. I
> actually have TWO versions of Eudora installed. The very old TEXT
> ONLY version 3.0.5, and one of the newer ones. Most of the time I
> still use the old version 3.x because it is text only and very simple.
> Thats the problem with most software, they keep adding useless junk in
> order to make more sales. Emoticons is a good example of useless
> garbage. These companies should learn the KISS method
>
> K eep
> I t
> S imple
> S tupid.
>
>
>
>

Wrong ... ME is not like 98 with fewer bugs!!! 98 second editon has far
fewwer bugs than ME! The only new thing ME has is it's crappy restore
thing that uses 2 gigs of your HDD space. No, ME is like 2000 with MORE
bugs my friend!