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Today I have begun experimenting with Mozilla's Firefox browser. While I do
appreciate the fact that it has built-in popup blocking, as well as active-x
download controls (think anti-spyware people). It also has the better IE
plugins for it, things like Flash, Quicktime, Real Player (who uses that),
Acrobat Reader and Java. It's crashed on me only once, but that's way
better than IE crashing many times an hour every hour of every day.

That being said, I do have a couple of complaints.

* Why does it seem to be very difficult to add foreign languages into
Firefox? There doesn't seem to be any foreign language support on their
update page (languages like Japanese, Chinese).

* How can I disable "Auto-Complete", meaning when I'm typing a URL into the
address bar, you see other URLs appear below it. It's just... annoying for
me.

* Look on http://www.projectblack.com on both IE and Firefox, you'll notice
that the image for the menu tops (along the sides) don't load in Firefox,
but pretty much everything else does. Plus, the animated GIF of Bender
there is like, flying way too fast, while other animated GIFs on the page
are moving at the speed they should be.

If I can get these issues taken care of, I don't see why I wouldn't dump IE
altogether and use Firefox exclusively. Thanks!

"Adrian - ProjectBlack.com" <> wrote in message
news:FJOdnYeOpvjtuUHcRVn-...
> Today I have begun experimenting with Mozilla's Firefox browser. While I
> do
> appreciate the fact that it has built-in popup blocking, as well as
> active-x
> download controls (think anti-spyware people). It also has the better IE
> plugins for it, things like Flash, Quicktime, Real Player (who uses that),
> Acrobat Reader and Java. It's crashed on me only once, but that's way
> better than IE crashing many times an hour every hour of every day.
>
> That being said, I do have a couple of complaints.
>
> * Why does it seem to be very difficult to add foreign languages into
> Firefox? There doesn't seem to be any foreign language support on their
> update page (languages like Japanese, Chinese).
>
> * How can I disable "Auto-Complete", meaning when I'm typing a URL into
> the
> address bar, you see other URLs appear below it. It's just... annoying
> for
> me.
>
> * Look on http://www.projectblack.com on both IE and Firefox, you'll
> notice
> that the image for the menu tops (along the sides) don't load in Firefox,
> but pretty much everything else does. Plus, the animated GIF of Bender
> there is like, flying way too fast, while other animated GIFs on the page
> are moving at the speed they should be.
>
> If I can get these issues taken care of, I don't see why I wouldn't dump
> IE
> altogether and use Firefox exclusively. Thanks!
>
>
OK, as for your website, the usual problem (and it comes up in other places
too)
is the fact that when IE had 95%+ of the browser market, some developers got
lazy
and ignored web standards (W3C) in designing web pages and developed them
where they would work only with IE. (Frontpage anyone?).

Now Firefox comes along, sticks to the standards supposedly accepted by all,
and
now some (IE developed) sites don't show as their designers had in mind.

That's OK, isn't it? After all IE users number
95%.......94.......93........92.........Well
at last count using the best data available IE is used by less than 90% of
the market
and falling quickly. (Many believe it will be down around 80% by the end of
this year).
Now this presents a problem for the sites, as their potential base is
falling, (a killer for
some small businesses). A lot of developers are getting work "retro-fitting"
sites for the
rest of us!

Adrian - ProjectBlack.com wrote:

>
> * Why does it seem to be very difficult to add foreign languages into
> Firefox? There doesn't seem to be any foreign language support on their
> update page (languages like Japanese, Chinese).

Tools/Options/General/Language and add the languages/character sets you
want. If you want Japanese, Chinese etc character sets you need to add
those to Windows

>
> * How can I disable "Auto-Complete", meaning when I'm typing a URL into the
> address bar, you see other URLs appear below it. It's just... annoying for
> me.

Apparently the following works although I've not tested it:

Create a UserChrome.ccs file in your Profiles folder
(http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/edit) and enter the following in
it with Notepad:

/* Hide type ahead find drop down in address bar */
#PopupAutoComplete, .autocomplete-tree { visibility: hidden !important;
display: none !important; }

/* Remove the drop arrow in the Address bar */
..autocomplete-history-dropmarker {
display: none !important; }

Save (as .css not .txt file), close and restart FF.

>
> * Look on http://www.projectblack.com on both IE and Firefox, you'll notice
> that the image for the menu tops (along the sides) don't load in Firefox,
> but pretty much everything else does. Plus, the animated GIF of Bender
> there is like, flying way too fast, while other animated GIFs on the page
> are moving at the speed they should be.
>

Yes there are some sites out there which are so badly out of compliance
with standards they will not render properly in a standards compliant
browser. The best bet is to get the IEView extension for the occassions
you hit one of these and need to view it.

Good luck

Tony

On 2005-01-05, Charles <> wrote:

>
> "Adrian - ProjectBlack.com" <> wrote in message
> news:FJOdnYeOpvjtuUHcRVn-...
>>
>> * Look on http://www.projectblack.com on both IE and Firefox, you'll
>> notice
>> that the image for the menu tops (along the sides) don't load in Firefox,
>> but pretty much everything else does. Plus, the animated GIF of Bender
>> there is like, flying way too fast, while other animated GIFs on the page
>> are moving at the speed they should be.

> OK, as for your website, the usual problem (and it comes up in other places
> too)
> is the fact that when IE had 95%+ of the browser market, some developers got
> lazy
> and ignored web standards (W3C) in designing web pages and developed them
> where they would work only with IE. (Frontpage anyone?).
>
> Now Firefox comes along, sticks to the standards supposedly accepted by all,
> and
> now some (IE developed) sites don't show as their designers had in mind.
>
> That's OK, isn't it? After all IE users number
> 95%.......94.......93........92.........Well
> at last count using the best data available IE is used by less than 90% of
> the market
> and falling quickly. (Many believe it will be down around 80% by the end of
> this year).
> Now this presents a problem for the sites, as their potential base is
> falling, (a killer for
> some small businesses). A lot of developers are getting work "retro-fitting"
> sites for the
> rest of us!

And to think if these developers had just stuck to the published standards
right from the stadrt, instead of letting Microsoft lead them around by
the nose, they wouldn't have to be re-writing their pages to accommodate
W3C standards.

W3C compliant pages will render properly in any browser, Mozilla, IE,
whatever.


--
-John ()

Sweet! Looks like 2 out of 3 problems were resolved...

As far as bringing my site up to this compliance, anyone know a guy?

Adrian - ProjectBlack.com wrote:
> Sweet! Looks like 2 out of 3 problems were resolved...
>
> As far as bringing my site up to this compliance, anyone know a guy?
>
>

Run it through the W3C validator and it will tell you which bits of the
code are non-compliant. http://validator.w3.org/ With the output it
should be easy enough for any half competent web author to bring it into
compliance.

Tony