Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

What is the current state of java servlet support by major browsers ?

Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?

Thanks.

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On 12/24/2012 12:04 PM, SL@maxis wrote:
> What is the current state of java servlet support by major browsers ?
>
> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?

Servlets is server side technology and therefore "supported"
by all browsers.

If you mean applets, then I believe that all modern
PC browsers support it, but that smartphone browsers
do not support it.

(applet support = Java plugin available)

Java applets are definitely not in fashion. RIA
are typical done with Flash/Flex or HTML/CSS/JS/AJAX
today.

Java applets are still used occasionally, because the
ability to sign them and give them client PC access are
useful/necessary in some contexts.

Some internet usage and a lot of intranet usage.

Arne

Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

SL@maxis wrote:
> What is the current state of java [sic] servlet support by major browsers ?

No browser supports servlets.

> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?

Very much still kicking.

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 01:37:38 +0800, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:

>
> Servlets is server side technology and therefore "supported"
> by all browsers.
>
> If you mean applets, then I believe that all modern
> PC browsers support it, but that smartphone browsers
> do not support it.
>
> (applet support = Java plugin available)
>
> Java applets are definitely not in fashion. RIA
> are typical done with Flash/Flex or HTML/CSS/JS/AJAX
> today.
>
> Java applets are still used occasionally, because the
> ability to sign them and give them client PC access are
> useful/necessary in some contexts.
>
> Some internet usage and a lot of intranet usage.
>

Ha, my mistake; "servlet" should actually be "applet". Thanks for
correcting me.

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On 24.12.2012 20:06, Lew wrote:
> SL@maxis wrote:

>> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?
>
> Very much still kicking.

Which one? Browsers, servlets or applets? ;-)

Cheers

robert

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On 12/24/2012 5:33 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 24.12.2012 20:06, Lew wrote:
>> SL@maxis wrote:
>
>>> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?
>>
>> Very much still kicking.
>
> Which one? Browsers, servlets or applets? ;-)

Kicklets. They still have the ballslets to fight for
their rightslets, defending their nichelets against all
threatlets, patriotically emptying their wallets and spilling
their platelets.

Happy holidayslets to you.

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On 12/25/2012 12:15 AM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> On 12/24/2012 5:33 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>> On 24.12.2012 20:06, Lew wrote:
>>> SL@maxis wrote:
>>
>>>> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?
>>>
>>> Very much still kicking.
>>
>> Which one? Browsers, servlets or applets? ;-)
>
> Kicklets. They still have the ballslets to fight for
> their rightslets, defending their nichelets against all
> threatlets, patriotically emptying their wallets and spilling
> their platelets.
>
> Happy holidayslets to you.

Eric, thanks for making my day! *chuckle*

All the best

robert

Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

Robert Klemme wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> SL@maxis wrote:
>>> Is it a dying technology or still alive and kicking ?
>
>> Very much still kicking.
>
> Which one? Browsers, servlets or applets? ;-)

I took the antecedent to be servlets, I assume they already know the
answer to browsers, and since then I've seen that they actually meant
applets.

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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

In article <op.wpt8ogiewv4027@kiat-1>,
"SL@maxis" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 01:37:38 +0800, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > Servlets is server side technology and therefore "supported"
> > by all browsers.
> >
> > If you mean applets, then I believe that all modern
> > PC browsers support it, but that smartphone browsers
> > do not support it.
> >
> > (applet support = Java plugin available)
> >
> > Java applets are definitely not in fashion. RIA
> > are typical done with Flash/Flex or HTML/CSS/JS/AJAX
> > today.
> >
> > Java applets are still used occasionally, because the
> > ability to sign them and give them client PC access are
> > useful/necessary in some contexts.
> >
> > Some internet usage and a lot of intranet usage.
> >
>
> Ha, my mistake; "servlet" should actually be "applet". Thanks for
> correcting me.

Definitely in decline. HTML 5 + WebSockets can make fully interactive
applications that look and feel native. The improvements are so great
that the dreaded workflow and business logic tier can be moved from the
server side to the client side. Moving that tier to the client takes a
HUGE load off the server, making the server a pure number cruncher and
data service.

Some Servlet engines have WebSocket support built in. Jetty converts
the protocol upgrade request into a servlet call for a WebSocket
handler. Adding WebSocket support is not much different from adding a
new method handler to your servlet. Your WebSocket then sends and
receives messages to communicate with the client.

I still shudder when recalling my time writing applets. Sun's attempts
at making GUI APIs is the stuff nightmares are made of. It made me
nostalgic for C++ GUIs that abused polymorphism to extremes.
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Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ?
 

On 12/27/2012 2:20 AM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <op.wpt8ogiewv4027@kiat-1>,
> "SL@maxis" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> wrote:
>> Ha, my mistake; "servlet" should actually be "applet". Thanks for
>> correcting me.
>
> Definitely in decline. HTML 5 + WebSockets can make fully interactive
> applications that look and feel native.

The decline is not caused by HTML 5 and websockets. It happen
many years before those showed up.

And there are still 40-50% of PC browsers that do not support
websockets (primarily IE < 10).

Arne